Duncan wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2017 8:06 pm

StroppyChops wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2017 7:45 pm

juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2017 7:44 pmHonest answer, I'm not sure. But they look and feel like the ones in the Uk. Chinese I should think. If it can take alightning strike, it should be ok for an earth leak. The RCD will trip out in milliseconds anyway if it's all been wired properly.
You can probably get the whole lot for under $50. The RCDs are around $22 iirc.

Our electrician will only install the more expensive Thai RCDs and not the cheaper Chinese RCDs - does that sound right?

I'm pretty sure that the ones TEAMS installed for me were Schneider brand, made in Germany so they must be available in Cambodia. I would put my money on that brand rather than anything made in Thailand or China.

I thought the Hagar one's were imported from Europe, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were a Thai subsidiary. Everything's outsourced nowadays. Are they the same quality that they ship back to Europe?

German is good. If you're sure Schneider doesn't also produce them in Thailand.

The Chinese Hagar copies look a bit shit. The blue writing is lighter and badly stamped iirc.

Thank you all, it looks like I have a bit of shopping to do tomorrow. At least I have an idea of what to look for now as I feel like everything I "know" doesn't translate well here, seems as though the terms "clean" or "quiet" power have no meaning to anyone I talk to.

Not surprising though as I realise I expect everyone to know everything sometimes. I'll update the post when I get it sorted and if I remember.

juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2017 8:13 pm

Duncan wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2017 8:06 pm

StroppyChops wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2017 7:45 pm

juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2017 7:44 pmHonest answer, I'm not sure. But they look and feel like the ones in the Uk. Chinese I should think. If it can take alightning strike, it should be ok for an earth leak. The RCD will trip out in milliseconds anyway if it's all been wired properly.
You can probably get the whole lot for under $50. The RCDs are around $22 iirc.

Our electrician will only install the more expensive Thai RCDs and not the cheaper Chinese RCDs - does that sound right?

I'm pretty sure that the ones TEAMS installed for me were Schneider brand, made in Germany so they must be available in Cambodia. I would put my money on that brand rather than anything made in Thailand or China.

I thought the Hagar one's where imported from Europe, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were a Thai subsidiary. Everything's outsourced nowadays. Are they the same quality that they ship back to Europe?

German is good. If you're sure Schneider doesn't also produce them in Thailand.

I have no idea where they are actually produced, but would not surprise me if it was somewhere other than Germany.

I might add also that three of mine have built in meters , a bit smaller than what you would see on a moto mileage meter . If you wire your air-con or extra room you rent out through one, this will allow you to see exactly what has been used.

juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2017 8:13 pm German is good. If you're sure Schneider doesn't also produce them in Thailand.

Reasonably confident Schneider manufacture in Thailand - a quick Google search seems to confirm this.

Duncan wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2017 8:26 pm I have no idea where they are actually produced, but would not surprise me if it was somewhere other than Germany.

Where it's built has a lot less meaning than it used to. My old BMW was made in the U.S. while the Ford was made in Germany.

Duncan wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2017 8:26 pm
I might add also that three of mine have built in meters

I would love that, I'll be sure to look for those.

Duncan wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2017 8:26 pm

juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2017 8:13 pm

Duncan wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2017 8:06 pm

StroppyChops wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2017 7:45 pm

juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2017 7:44 pmHonest answer, I'm not sure. But they look and feel like the ones in the Uk. Chinese I should think. If it can take alightning strike, it should be ok for an earth leak. The RCD will trip out in milliseconds anyway if it's all been wired properly.
You can probably get the whole lot for under $50. The RCDs are around $22 iirc.

Our electrician will only install the more expensive Thai RCDs and not the cheaper Chinese RCDs - does that sound right?

I'm pretty sure that the ones TEAMS installed for me were Schneider brand, made in Germany so they must be available in Cambodia. I would put my money on that brand rather than anything made in Thailand or China.

I thought the Hagar one's where imported from Europe, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were a Thai subsidiary. Everything's outsourced nowadays. Are they the same quality that they ship back to Europe?

German is good. If you're sure Schneider doesn't also produce them in Thailand.

I have no idea where they are actually produced, but would not surprise me if it was somewhere other than Germany.

I might add also that three of mine have built in meters , a bit smaller than what you would see on a moto mileage meter . If you wire your air-con or extra room you rent out through one, this will allow you to see exactly what has been used.

Are you sure you're talking about rcd's/ rccd's ( residual current device) ? The usual trips you see ( should) in the fusebox are called mcb's. (Micro circuit breakers.) And they replaced one's that used fuse wire

You only need one RCD per premises.

juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2017 6:10 am

Duncan wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2017 8:26 pm

juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2017 8:13 pm

Duncan wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2017 8:06 pm

StroppyChops wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2017 7:45 pm
Our electrician will only install the more expensive Thai RCDs and not the cheaper Chinese RCDs - does that sound right?

I'm pretty sure that the ones TEAMS installed for me were Schneider brand, made in Germany so they must be available in Cambodia. I would put my money on that brand rather than anything made in Thailand or China.

I thought the Hagar one's where imported from Europe, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were a Thai subsidiary. Everything's outsourced nowadays. Are they the same quality that they ship back to Europe?

German is good. If you're sure Schneider doesn't also produce them in Thailand.

I have no idea where they are actually produced, but would not surprise me if it was somewhere other than Germany.

I might add also that three of mine have built in meters , a bit smaller than what you would see on a moto mileage meter . If you wire your air-con or extra room you rent out through one, this will allow you to see exactly what has been used.

Are you sure you're talking about rcd's/ rccd's ( residual current device) ? The usual trips you see ( should) in the fusebox are called mcb's. (Micro circuit breakers.) And they replaced one's that used fuse wire

You only need one RCD per premises.

Your right, but if you have one on every circuit is easier to track down where you have a problem ,, and if you have one with a meter, [ as shown ],, to each room or air-co , you know how much electricity is being used on that circuit.

juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2017 6:10 amYou only need one RCD per premises.

In a perfect world, maybe.

Duncan wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2017 10:11 am

juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2017 6:10 am

Duncan wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2017 8:26 pm

juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2017 8:13 pm

Duncan wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2017 8:06 pm


I'm pretty sure that the ones TEAMS installed for me were Schneider brand, made in Germany so they must be available in Cambodia. I would put my money on that brand rather than anything made in Thailand or China.

I thought the Hagar one's where imported from Europe, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were a Thai subsidiary. Everything's outsourced nowadays. Are they the same quality that they ship back to Europe?

German is good. If you're sure Schneider doesn't also produce them in Thailand.

I have no idea where they are actually produced, but would not surprise me if it was somewhere other than Germany.

I might add also that three of mine have built in meters , a bit smaller than what you would see on a moto mileage meter . If you wire your air-con or extra room you rent out through one, this will allow you to see exactly what has been used.

Are you sure you're talking about rcd's/ rccd's ( residual current device) ? The usual trips you see ( should) in the fusebox are called mcb's. (Micro circuit breakers.) And they replaced one's that used fuse wire

You only need one RCD per premises.

Your right, but if you have one on every circuit is easier to track down where you have a problem ,, and if you have one with a meter, [ as shown ],, to each room or air-co , you know how much electricity is being used on that circuit.

Are you positive that's an rcd Duncan? Because it's only 10 amp and looks like an mcb.
If you find you haven't got an rcd installed it's worth putting one on the main supply where it comes in, before it goes into the fuse box. It should say rcd or rccd on it.

^^I see "230v 5(50) A" so I'm guessing 50 amp, which sounds about right.

Anyway, posting what I've found today. If my terminology is bad, it's because not English well gooding.

Brass grounding clamps, $2.5 PP Electrical Supply
Kw Metre, $13 (small 1KVa) Chinese quality.

Lots of different "Schneider" MCBs ranging from $2.4 to $18 a piece, some made in India, some in Indonesia, some in Thailand, some in China, didn't see any from Germany.

RCDs were $22 as stated, "Good company", whatever that means. Hager brand I think it what I got but it didn't have the Kw metre, hence why I bought the Chinese brand metre above.

3 prong outlet (one three prong two (2) prong), seem sturdy enough were $3 a piece. Was told they're stronger, no idea if it's true, but they look nicer.

3 core wire good for 20 amps, heavy insulation "rat resistant" $2.2? a metre.

Ground rod I couldn't find anywhere I asked, but probably because I can't explain it well or am dense, so I'm planning on using a length of copper pipe after pounding a 3 metre length of rebar into the ground first as a kind of pilot drill. Probably not up to code but I need some form of noise reduction on the power and I'm very rapidly running out of time.


So all in with "high quality" components I'm in about $170 for the parts, not including the voltage stablisier and battery backup inverter.

For those wondering, the 5KVA stabiliser was $90 (Chinese brand), and the battery backup was around $500 I believer, $340 for the batteries and $160 or $180 for the inverter (3000 watt) I think, maybe a 5000.