Cambodia International Schools pay and hours

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Gilmore wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:50 pm As someone who hires teachers at a Cambodian International school, I wouldn't employ anyone with your arrogance. First, describe your qualifications and experience. International School is a very broad term that describes a wide variety of educational institutions and the requirements for employment vary enormously, as do salaries and conditions. I doubt that you would meet our standards.
Anyone who makes demands when approaching us for employment doesn't get past 1st. base and I expect the same applies to other schools offering salaries at the level you expect. The schools you have mentioned are totally diverse in terms of age groups, curricula, salaries and conditions.
Dude, that was a very "440 response" to a new poster with a legit question. Isn't this a social forum? You responded as if he had emailed that post to you at work. Rather than insult him, why not either keep quiet or ask him what his qualifications are?
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The OP is still refusing to state his/her qualifications and experience, despite being invited to by me and other posters. He/she says he/she is a "real teacher", but gives no supporting evidence. To earn a salary of $2000+, you would need a relevant degree from a recognised university, a legitimate teaching qualification, such as a Certificate of Teaching or PGCE, plus several years of verified teaching experience at that level.
Air fares are paid by top tier international schools, if they recruit overseas. Some of the top schools, such as Northbridge and ISPP recruit academic staff exclusively overseas, via teacher recruiting agencies. As I understand it, the payment of living allowances has declined in recent years.
I make no apologies for my initial comments. They were based on indicators such as "HERE", the use of a suspicious emoticon and the attitude that if they want the OP's valuable services, they'd better be prepared to negotiate under his/her terms and conditions.
The fact that the OP could not ascertain the vast differences between the 3 schools mentioned, after perusing their websites, is highly suspicious. Any serious teacher would have noticed they operate at different levels and offer very disparate forms of education.
Combine these doubts with the OP's reluctance to reveal specific details about qualifications and experience and this supposed sincere inquiry becomes very suspect indeed.
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kptic wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:41 am
Gilmore wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:50 pm As someone who hires teachers at a Cambodian International school, I wouldn't employ anyone ...
Dude, that was a very "440 response" to a new poster with a legit question. Isn't this a social forum? You responded as if he had emailed that post to you at work. Rather than insult him, why not either keep quiet or ask him what his qualifications are?

:hattip: yes. Well said. That is why I refuse to respond to their rants. Worked with enough of those types who try desperately to pull your strings and then watch you implode. Let them implode. Like a suicide bomber (but all alone). :dragonchase:
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Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:40 pm A lot of the schools still hire through those fairs. Skype is increasingly used though. $2000 is enough to live fairly comfortably. Do they provide accommodation?
In one ad they said they provided accommodation but I was contacted by a recruiter and they said they don't. Of course in Asia and the Middle East everything is negotiable. I don't think I would accept 2000 without accommodation. Since it's not expensive they should at least provide that. 2000 is not a lot, ok cost of living is less, but I still need to travel and have a normal life. Not skid row existence. Am not a back packer. That being said it may or may not work out for me. I am just gauging things right now to see if the 'right' offer comes in. Cambodia seems like a very interesting place to work and live, and a lot can be achieved if your motivated. I'm into opening a gallery so...thought it might be an idea to do it there. Time will tell.
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chopstickDragon wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:44 pm I don't think I would accept 2000 without accommodation. Since it's not expensive they should at least provide that. 2000 is not a lot, ok cost of living is less, but I still need to travel and have a normal life. Not skid row existence. Am not a back packer.
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Gilmore wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:50 pm As someone who hires teachers at a Cambodian International school, I wouldn't employ anyone with your arrogance. First, describe your qualifications and experience. International School is a very broad term that describes a wide variety of educational institutions and the requirements for employment vary enormously, as do salaries and conditions. I doubt that you would meet our standards.
Anyone who makes demands when approaching us for employment doesn't get past 1st. base and I expect the same applies to other schools offering salaries at the level you expect. The schools you have mentioned are totally diverse in terms of age groups, curricula, salaries and conditions.
Lol.That last part was a bit rich, wasn't it? Especially coming from somebody who's been here years, but still can't figure out why the security don't get the parents to drop their kids off down the road a bit. Lol. :stir:
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Not skid row existence. Am not a back packer
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chopstickDragon wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:35 am Thanks great insight. Yes your right about the tier system. It's a foot in the door in the international school system.
Check out RMIT in HCM, Vietnam. They pay well with all the benefits. They also have different tiers of teachers re your foot in the door comment. HCM is only a short flight or bus journey of 5 hours to Phnom Penh. Accomodation in a new high rise is around $450 for a two bedroomed fully furnished apartment. With swimming pool, tennis courts and supermarket/ bars etc on site. About the same or cheaper than here on average, but higher quality I would say. Also, food is cheaper. In Vietnam you can save, save, save.
You could build up a decent amount of privates here, with pay of around $20 ph up. It depends on which country you like best. I'd try Vietnam first myself.

NB There is an active art scene in HCM and Phnom Penh. It's pretty small though.
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Gilmore wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:19 pm To earn a salary of $2000+, you would need a relevant degree from a recognised university, a legitimate teaching qualification, such as a Certificate of Teaching or PGCE, plus several years of verified teaching experience at that level.
Air fares are paid by top tier international schools, if they recruit overseas. Some of the top schools, such as Northbridge and ISPP recruit academic staff exclusively overseas, via teacher recruiting agencies.
If so, please explain how I walked into Northbridge off the street with not a day of teaching experience and no teaching qualification but a TESOL from Rick Barnes at Languagecorp, albeit years ago, and got hired for well over 3k a month. :please:

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I am a fully qualified teacher and am currently teaching at a government school in Australia. I have previously taught at international schools in Thailand and for ACE in Phnom Penh. The problem is that even though I'm healthy, active reasonably computer literate and still teaching in Australia, I'm of senior vintage (67). There's no set retirement age in Australia and many teachers work until their 70s. I'm thinking of spending time in Cambodia again. I wonder though what my chances of getting a job would be as I'm sure most schools prefer younger teachers?
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