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Just as a hypothetical at this point.

If you were to rent a vacant section/lot for cheap in Kampot/SR/Battambang and wanted to build a tiny house - trailer style on wheels - would there be any issues with the local Sangkat or anyone? My thinking is as a barang there'd be no issue with selling it later to another barang, who could then continue to rent the land, or tow it somewhere else. I'd install solar power, but would want a sewage connection because who really wants a composting toilet... I'm assuming because it's not a permanent structure you wouldn't need any kind of building permits/permission?

Something like this:

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I've been offered a spot of land at a friend's place, I've been thinking along the same lines.
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You don't need a composting toilet. I built 4 small hotels in Phuket, all remote from the mains sewage system. Just dig a hole, pop in a septic tank, feed the overflow liquids to a soakaway dry well, add some bacteria to munch up the poop and you're done!
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simon43 wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:59 pm You don't need a composting toilet. I built 4 small hotels in Phuket, all remote from the mains sewage system. Just dig a hole, pop in a septic tank, feed the overflow liquids to a soakaway dry well, add some bacteria to munch up the poop and you're done!
using the same method here in a remote place in Italy. Works perfectly.
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simon43 wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:59 pm You don't need a composting toilet. I built 4 small hotels in Phuket, all remote from the mains sewage system. Just dig a hole, pop in a septic tank, feed the overflow liquids to a soakaway dry well, add some bacteria to munch up the poop and you're done!
what i had for my house in Phuket, only had the truck around every 4-5 years to suck up the shit
in fact, i have never lived in a house here in phuket that was connected to any sewage system.

Also how are house is in Svay Rieng an the one we have in Kep
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timmydownawell Just as a hypothetical stab for an answer at this point. I like you're thinking and outlook on this subject, and I mostly like the subject matter. Anything to do with projects and building, more so with this being a dwelling of a type, depending on the amenities you may or not have, will determine if it will be a suitable home. Comforts are a must for many people, but most of us I would say are adaptable. I must admit the nearest thing I have seen likewise to a mobile home in this country is being that of the moto or tractor and trailer belonging to the long-distance salespeople, such examples the sellers of household goods and the heavy wooden furniture.
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The idea interests me, but again looking at a different angle, for example the mobile home you have pictured is all built up and ready to move in, what about having the trailer built so a multitude of transport can tow it, then having the building built of available materials that are durable and sustainable, being that there would be sectional panels that laid flat in the trailer, but easily put together on site (still using the trailer has the base foundation) and being (man handed) carried to location. Reasons I mention this is some locations can be difficult to reach, I had huge problems getting timber on the land where I once built the house (in the rain). Then a friend had a container converted in Phnom Penh, delivery to the land was impossible, the delivery company dumped it 400 metres from where it should have been originally placed.
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As far has your questions of the legal side of things, I can't help, laws in this country, being the minority, we would be the last to hear, unless it was specific to ourselves. I would think that palms could probably want greasing at some point.

At this time, I just want to rent a reasonable plot of land for a minimum of 5 years, must have water and electricity, for the purpose a small market garden, and aquaponics, then I would consider construction of a sectional home.

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simon43 wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:59 pm You don't need a composting toilet. I built 4 small hotels in Phuket, all remote from the mains sewage system. Just dig a hole, pop in a septic tank, feed the overflow liquids to a soakaway dry well, add some bacteria to munch up the poop and you're done!
Oh yes, I've seen how to make your own septic system, and the tanks are readily available so that's no problem. Just easier to connect to a town system if it's in place.
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AndyKK wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:29 pm The idea interests me, but again looking at a different angle, for example the mobile home you have pictured is all built up and ready to move in, what about having the trailer built so a multitude of transport can tow it, then having the building built of available materials that are durable and sustainable, being that there would be sectional panels that laid flat in the trailer, but easily put together on site (still using the trailer has the base foundation) and being (man handed) carried to location. Reasons I mention this is some locations can be difficult to reach, I had huge problems getting timber on the land where I once built the house (in the rain). Then a friend had a container converted in Phnom Penh, delivery to the land was impossible, the delivery company dumped it 400 metres from where it should have been originally placed.
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As far has your questions of the legal side of things, I can't help, laws in this country, being the minority, we would be the last to hear, unless it was specific to ourselves. I would think that palms could probably want greasing at some point.

At this time, I just want to rent a reasonable plot of land for a minimum of 5 years, must have water and electricity, for the purpose a small market garden, and aquaponics, then I would consider construction of a sectional home.
The idea of being on wheels is to circumvent planning/building red tape and costs as it's a trailer/mobile home, not a house or building. And has the added advantage of being (potentially at least) easier to sell. So in that regard it would need to stay on the trailer base. I've drawn up a couple of designs. The fancier one was made of two trailers that bolt together in a T shape so that it's all on one level and the bedroom isn't a cramped space up some steep stairs. But that might be overkill.

The pic was just a random example. Timber is heavy and expensive so I'd be inclined to build it with a steel frame and corrugated iron cladding.

Think I'll pass on the micro camper though lol.
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timmydownawell wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:32 pm
AndyKK wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 8:29 pm The idea interests me, but again looking at a different angle, for example the mobile home you have pictured is all built up and ready to move in, what about having the trailer built so a multitude of transport can tow it, then having the building built of available materials that are durable and sustainable, being that there would be sectional panels that laid flat in the trailer, but easily put together on site (still using the trailer has the base foundation) and being (man handed) carried to location. Reasons I mention this is some locations can be difficult to reach, I had huge problems getting timber on the land where I once built the house (in the rain). Then a friend had a container converted in Phnom Penh, delivery to the land was impossible, the delivery company dumped it 400 metres from where it should have been originally placed.
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As far has your questions of the legal side of things, I can't help, laws in this country, being the minority, we would be the last to hear, unless it was specific to ourselves. I would think that palms could probably want greasing at some point.

At this time, I just want to rent a reasonable plot of land for a minimum of 5 years, must have water and electricity, for the purpose a small market garden, and aquaponics, then I would consider construction of a sectional home.
The idea of being on wheels is to circumvent planning/building red tape and costs as it's a trailer/mobile home, not a house or building. And has the added advantage of being (potentially at least) easier to sell. So in that regard it would need to stay on the trailer base. I've drawn up a couple of designs. The fancier one was made of two trailers that bolt together in a T shape so that it's all on one level and the bedroom isn't a cramped space up some steep stairs. But that might be overkill.

The pic was just a random example. Timber is heavy and expensive so I'd be inclined to build it with a steel frame and corrugated iron cladding.

Think I'll pass on the micro camper though lol.
Along the same ideas, I had looked into steal and some composite materials, also with benefits of cooling in favour. Still to be placed on the trailer, but sectional for travel and movement to site, being that per section can be easily carried by two people, the sectional panel being built to plan in a workshop beforehand. the panels then would just bolt in situ.
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On the downside, I have seen what happens when a septic tank is not correctly constructed. All I'm saying is that you should make sure that you have it all worked out in advance, because when your septic tank overloads - it overloads. Believe me. :bad:
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