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armchairlawyer wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2024 9:45 pm
Bluenose wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:32 pm
armchairlawyer wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2024 5:40 pm
Bluenose wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:49 pm
armchairlawyer wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:29 pm Heineken and Tiger both use exclusively barley and hops even when brewed in Cambodia. I don’t believe the others made here use much, mainly rice. Beer Lao even admits to using rice.
Others import big quantities of barley malt. With the volume imbalance between SE Asia and NW Europe you can get container rates close to zero, the lines would rather have minimal freight and the port charges paid rather than shipping empty containers at their own cost.
Interesting. We'll have to see how that works now with the Suez canal not being used by container ships.
Even more incentive to get any little revenue instead of zero. However, Australia and China also supply barley malt to Cambodia.
So, just to be clear - you are saying the shippers are providing a free service to transport the barley malt from Europe and Australia - and the barley malt sellers also sell it at a special low cost?
I'm saying that the shipping lines have to bring vast numbers of containers back empty to SE Asia. While they may be carrying them on their own ships, they still have to pay the ports to load and unload them. If they can get their customers to pay just the port costs they will give the freight for free - or even give a rebate.
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Shipping an empty container from Antwerp toShanghai was pre-covid400 dollars, only the shipping costs from dock to dock.
Exactly a year a go i shipped my car from Sihanoukville to Antwerp in a 20-foot container.
Shipping was 1500 dollar and all the costs around where 1275at khmer-side and another 600 at belgian side. I drove myself to SHV, loaded and lashed it myself, and also in Belgium unlashed and unloaded myself.
THE prices fluctuate every day, there is a container-index-price. For example last week it raised 23% because of the problems in Yemen!!!
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Found some cheap “Foreign Brewed” Guinnesses today at my supermarket … #yummers
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AFAIK, Krud is the only chemical free(ish) local beer, ironically brewed by Vattanac which produces Vattanac beer, which is gut rot. When I'm in the mood, 15 cold Krud on large ice cubes in a Krud glass tankard drank slowly without snacks, followed by, or interspersed with a bottle of QUALITY Sraa T'nam (medicinal rice whisky) is the mutt's nuts.
Sraa T'nam can kill or blind you if the producer mixes in methanol to save money. Ask the wise old men in your area which one they would buy if price wasn't an issue. Generally, avoid the bright red one in a 500ml bottle at 1,500 KHR. The honey coloured ones at 2,000 KHR, 2,500 KHR all the way up to 12,000 KHR are a better choice. I buy 20 liters for 100,000 KHR (5,000 KHR per liter) in Takeo. Very clean. No hangover, even with half a case of Krud. I wake up fresh as a daisy at 4:30, get my walk done, coffee at 5, rice soup at 5:30. Spiff at 6. Heaven on earth.
Following posters will denigrate and ridicule Krud (like I give a damn). The name sucks. Actually it's the Khmer for Garuda, Vishnu's mount.
Sure, the flavour of the first can is light and citrusy but as every heavy drinker knows, it takes a few cans before you can really 'taste' what you're imbibing.
It is a light pilsner type of brew well recommended by online beer tasters. I shit you not!
Another bonus is, that because it's new, they're sending out cases with 12+ winning cans to attract new customers. In one week in November, I won 870,000 KHR and 40 free cans. Honestly! A
500K winning can, 3 100K cans and a bunch of smaller prizes. Any winner above 50,000 requires you to bring the top half of the can, as well as the ring pull. Without it, no payout. (The cash amount is printed on the underside of the top of the can also). The local distributor will pay 480,000 KHR for a 500,000 KHR winner. Your local shop/bar will only offer you 400,000 KHR.
Good luck and Juol Mouy! 🍻🍀
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DavidMurphy wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:53 am AFAIK, Krud is the only chemical free(ish) local beer, ironically brewed by Vattanac which produces Vattanac beer, which is gut rot. When I'm in the mood, 15 cold Krud on large ice cubes in a Krud glass tankard drank slowly without snacks, followed by, or interspersed with a bottle of QUALITY Sraa T'nam (medicinal rice whisky) is the mutt's nuts.
Sraa T'nam can kill or blind you if the producer mixes in methanol to save money. Ask the wise old men in your area which one they would buy if price wasn't an issue. Generally, avoid the bright red one in a 500ml bottle at 1,500 KHR. The honey coloured ones at 2,000 KHR, 2,500 KHR all the way up to 12,000 KHR are a better choice. I buy 20 liters for 100,000 KHR (5,000 KHR per liter) in Takeo. Very clean. No hangover, even with half a case of Krud. I wake up fresh as a daisy at 4:30, get my walk done, coffee at 5, rice soup at 5:30. Spiff at 6. Heaven on earth.
Following posters will denigrate and ridicule Krud (like I give a damn). The name sucks. Actually it's the Khmer for Garuda, Vishnu's mount.
Sure, the flavour of the first can is light and citrusy but as every heavy drinker knows, it takes a few cans before you can really 'taste' what you're imbibing.
It is a light pilsner type of brew well recommended by online beer tasters. I shit you not!
Another bonus is, that because it's new, they're sending out cases with 12+ winning cans to attract new customers. In one week in November, I won 870,000 KHR and 40 free cans. Honestly! A
500K winning can, 3 100K cans and a bunch of smaller prizes. Any winner above 50,000 requires you to bring the top half of the can, as well as the ring pull. Without it, no payout. (The cash amount is printed on the underside of the top of the can also). The local distributor will pay 480,000 KHR for a 500,000 KHR winner. Your local shop/bar will only offer you 400,000 KHR.
Good luck and Juol Mouy! 🍻🍀
Heck yeah!
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Thx 4 the positive replies and likes, fellow quaffers!
Tally thus far this balmy eve? 3 freebies, 5,000 KHR and one dud outta the first 5. The 6th can? Who can predict? Lexus? Moto? 1 can? Wish me luck 🤞
Mildly merry Dave 🍺
P.S. Every Khmer mate I've enlightened is now downing Krud. Every barang? Cynicism and suspicion!
I don't work for Vattanac (maybe I should). 😂
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And another thing, young party boys .... drop the Sraa T'nam in the icebox with your beer. Much more palatable. If it looks like honey (cloudy and golden), you've probably scored a good hit 🎯
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Interesting information from my new friend Bunnat. His wife is a retailer and their beer Krud is selling very well. He told me that members of Vattanac brewery, ie: official retailers sell two grades of Beer Krud, one slightly more expensive but with a lot of winners. He buys the pricier one, loses a bob or two on purchase but his sales have gone up 400%.
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DavidMurphy wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:53 am
Sraa T'nam can kill or blind you if the producer mixes in methanol to save money.
They don't mix methanol in, it's naturally produced in distillation. If the manufacturers don''t know what they are doing, people get poisoned.
The highest concentration of methanol is found in the tops and bottoms of the distillate. That is, the first and last collection fraction of the distillate after condensing. Producers of distilled beverages cut through the distillation process to collect only the heart, and discard the heads and tails. The cuts is the key operation where the distillate is collected with less amount of methanol, which is why this stage of the production process is very important for producers of distilled beverages, where knowledge and experience are necessary when making cuts .
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