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Bathing naked with your younger kids considered pedophile ?

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As I went through my Facebook Newsfeed, i came across with this interesting controversy article. I personally think it is a good topic to discuss as many people have different definitions to what is considered as pedophile. Then, I thought I mush share it with people here and see their takes on it. However, if you guys think it is inappropriate to post here, Mod, please feel free to delete this thread.

Fathers are too often mistaken for paedophiles

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Mr Chris instead thinks that having a bath with your child is “hygge”, which is a Danish concept that means its cosy and fun, according to The Local news website Torben Chris

Is Danish comedian Torben Chris wrong to bathe with his daughter? No, he is not.

Was he wrong to take a photograph taken of himself bathing with his daughter? No, he is not.

Was he wrong to post that photograph on Facebook in order to publicise his one-man show on the topic of nudity? Perhaps, although on balance if anything is going to scar his daughter for life it is more likely to be that chunky gold chain on a hairy chest combo. The monster.

Chris posted the photo this week to highlight what he considers to be a new prudishness around nakedness in his homeland. He was inspired to share the snap after being contacted by fathers who had been branded as paedophiles for sharing similar photos - one had been shamed for posting a photo of his daughter’s French plait against her bare back.

If the intention was to demonstrate that the world has gone batty with paedo-hysteria, the experiment appears to have fallen a little flat. Chris received thousands of responses and it seems the vast majority were supportive. Even the critical ones were relatively measured in tone. However, the fact that such a mundane family snapshot has migrated from social media to local, then national and now global news would suggest that something here has touched a nerve. I suspect the truth is that all of us – and fathers in particular – are now very uncertain and perhaps deeply worried about what is or is not appropriate with respect to children and nudity.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/fat ... 77496.html

After having read this article and some interesting comments about this article, it made me think of Cambodian. In our society topic of sex is almost a taboo and no doubt, most of use grew up with little knowledge of sexuality and anatomy and especially those who are living in the remote areas. Parents are too shy to share with their kids about sexuality and leave alone taking bath naked with their children. Cambodian parents would be so embarrassed and shamed if their kids accidentally saw their sexual organs or caught them getting laid and it is a big deal while half of the world don't see it as a big deal and think it is something that their children need to know.

Should the topic of sexuality be widely discussed in Cambodia? Why and Why not?
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This is just stupid.

It's his daughter why's he supposed to do throw the baby in the tub by herself?

When my kids were younger I had baths and showers with them and see no issue with this whatsoever.
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agree;/
plus how many times do u see Khmer/thai / Laos ( but for some reason seldom Burmese) kids in villages half naked
an whats this with Khmer ladies always touching little boys cocks?

Anyway this is just a rehash of thread last year
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After having read this article and some interesting comments about this article, it made me think of Cambodian. In our society topic of sex is almost a taboo and no doubt, most of use grew up with little knowledge of sexuality and anatomy and especially those who are living in the remote areas. Parents are too shy to share with their kids about sexuality and leave alone taking bath naked with their children. Cambodian parents would be so embarrassed and shamed if their kids accidentally saw their sexual organs or caught them getting laid and it is a big deal while half of the world don't see it as a big deal and think it is something that their children need to know.

Should the topic of sexuality be widely discussed in Cambodia? Why and Why not?
@OP:
Lots of questions possible. A couple of things come to mind from your comment on this article. But for me it is your question that reveals a big cultural difference between your own attitude to nudity and mine. I don't dare speak for "all" westerners, but I think that for most of us "nudity" and "sexuality" are not automatically linked. Seeing your parents naked and seeing them having sex are totally different things.

So, just to make it clear for me, would you say that adult nudity is automatically considered sexual for Cambodians ? Do adults think that there is something dirty, shameful or harmful in the sight of a naked body that children should be protected from ? Or does it come from religion?
I just ask that because in western culture, when people are scared of nudity, we usually think it is a problem coming from religion teaching people to be ashamed of their body, and that nakedness is sinful.(ie, that it is sexual.)

In Cambodia, I guess I just thought that there is a lot of cultural modesty. Given that traditionally Cambodian families sleep in the same room and sometimes the same bed; do you think this taboo on nudity has developed as a sort of protection against incest ? That's really all I can come up with.

Ok, that's me on nudity. Someone else can deal with the sex ed.
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wasnt nudity(topless) more common in the history of cambodia? didnt the royal apsara dancers used to dance topless?
or are we talking more about the genital/groin area here?

i cant really comment too much as i dont have my own kids, but as a kid im sure i used to have plenty of baths with my dad... up until maybe a few years ago (i joke) lol within a family i dont see it as anything wrong/sexual at all, its a natural bonding experience between parent and child (when they are baby/toddler age)
theres always the discussion of whats appropriate and whats not, another subject is breastfeeding in public...
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I'd pretty much agree with everything said by AM and JL. In my family we weren't bothered at all by nudity when young, and my sisters and I would often have baths together. I don't recall ever bathing with my parents but maybe I did when tiny. However it wouldn't be unusual to briefly see my mum or dad naked the odd time around the bathroom or when going swimming etc. I'd guess when kids get into their teens they can get a bit shier though, understandable.
Anyway they are just bodies, everyone has them and people shouldn't have to feel ashamed or get a big complex about them. If they prefer to be modest that's ok too. Linking nudity and sexuality when it's just a father and toddler seems strange. At the same time I'm not surprised, it seems half the world is looking to get offended by some nonsense or other these days.

wasnt nudity(topless) more common in the history of cambodia? didnt the royal apsara dancers used to dance topless?
Common people seemed to just wear a sampot or loincloth or whatever for informal stuff. If you look at any 18th century photos of local women it seems most were topless. Maybe the French had something to do with driving it out?
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John Bingham wrote:Common people seemed to just wear a sampot or loincloth or whatever for informal stuff. If you look at any 18th century photos of local women it seems most were topless. Maybe the French had something to do with driving it out?
They did invent the brassiere
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Parents bathing with their babies and toddlers is pretty much the norm in most societies. Publishing pictures of it though, not a good idea purely to stop it from getting in the hands of some sick bastard.

It's a completely innocent act. To think any differently shows you have a problem.
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Digg3r wrote:Parents bathing with their babies and toddlers is pretty much the norm in most societies. Publishing pictures of it though, not a good idea purely to stop it from getting in the hands of some sick bastard.

It's a completely innocent act. To think any differently shows you have a problem.
I just have a problem with people posting pictures of their kids online fullstop - it' s not cute, it's cruel ! :whip:
It used to be embarrassing enough when your parents would pull out your baby photos to show your friends for a good laugh. Not to mention the reminder of all your bad haircuts and terrible clothes sense as you were growing up and didn't know any better. ( Yes, thats you with the fluffy curls and the big frown wearing the tanktop your mum knitted.)These days it's all online - forever. :O:
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off topic maybe , but Gandhi has a thing or two to explain about his obsession for sleeping with young kids.
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