Joon wrote:

EdinWigan wrote:Joon [some nauseating, sanctimonious, uninformed crap assumption] Of late she has just gone quiet, to professional to publicly comment, on things she also sees as in need of change, I guess.

Or maybe Joon's father died right after KNY and she was dealing with a load of personal crap and family drama over the last two weeks and suddenly engaging or moderating the petty bickering on a forum felt extremely trivial.

John Bingham wrote:I never understood all the flaming Joon got on here or on the other site. To me it seems to boil down to basic misogyny, as I could never seem to find anything particularly offensive in any of her posts.

MekongMouse wrote:

franzjaeger wrote:This is such an uncool thread, it's pulling this whole site down imho.

I think it is necessary. There are two other options: ban discussion about 440 or let people start multiple threads about 440. The first option only stifles speech while serving no real purpose and the second option allows for the forum to be overcome with shit about 440 vs CEO. Seems to me that the best option is the one that's happening already - lumping it all together in one thread.

juansweetpotato wrote:Well that was a show stopper. Wish she had posted that info on stupidoldmaliciouscunts.com .
Happy to see MeMo here. Not so happy to see LTO and the other K440 pompous arseholes though. Are you really sure they give your site the required je ne sais quoi General? Are all their posts 'gold' over here too? I am sick of their agendarist policies and thinking myself. I don't think I've ever seen people be that intelligent on some things (admittedly their view can often still be challenged - if allowed) and post such utter misleading bollocks when it comes to other subjects on purpose. Do I feel like I have been stabbed in the back for calling them out on it? Definitely. Do I care? Meh, I can't be bothered talking to people like that in real life, t just indicated to me that I shouldn't be bothered talking to them online either: they cant be trusted.
Plus they make me feel physically sick on the death threads, the last straw was them wishing Nick dead while laying recovering from a brain operation in Calmette, a hospital they all kept posting (wrongly) was a death sentence in its self.

Cam Nivag wrote:

UKJ wrote:Who is the old guard / clique?

I'm guessing Gavinmac, Scobienz, Playboy, andyinasia, and Lucky Lucan. Is that it?

Cam Nivag wrote: ... Is it just gavinmac, andyinasia, and lucky lucan? None of whom really socialize with each other in real life?

LTO wrote:

vladimir wrote:...My biggest beef was the lack of response to their plight by the embassy, and the 'flush them down the toilet' crowd's complete lack of sympathy; wait, it 's not even that bad, they couldn't just not have sympathy, or ignore it, they had to attack them and treat them as guilty of scamming...

AND THIS WITHOUT ANYONE ACTUALLY KNOWING THE TRUE STORY...

What I have always found kind of interesting about that was, in so far as it is true that people didn't "know" the truth of the story, they similarly don't know what the embassy knows, the basis for their decisions, whether they responded appropriately, or even what exactly they have actually done, yet the embassy is faulted by many for not doing the right thing. If one cannot comment on the singlet twins due to a supposed 'lack of knowledge,' surely they can't comment on the embassy's actions either. If one is part of the "we don't know" crowd, all that can really be said is to list an infinite number of possible scenarios that may have occured and how the singlets/embassy were right or wrong in each, or just say nothing at all.