Sunday: Are we so anti-Christian we're turning pro-Islam?

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Re: Sunday: Are we so anti-Christian we're turning pro-Islam

Post by dagenham » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:16 am

Having exhausted this thread we can all now hold hands in a prayer circle...

OD, don't take all this so personally - it's an internet forum - fantasy land - none of us are real, right?

good luck on that re-entry...
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Re: Sunday: Are we so anti-Christian we're turning pro-Islam

Post by UKJ » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:16 am

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat:

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.
Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.
When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well..

Here's how it works:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving
minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:
United States -- Muslim 0..6%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1.8%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.
This is happening in:


Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims.

They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply.
This is occurring in:
France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions.
In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam.

Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:
Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:
Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:
Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:
Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:
Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace.. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:
Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

'Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel. -- Leon Uris, 'The Haj'

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law.
The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death.
Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

Today's 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world's population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers.

Muslims will exceed 50% of the world's population by the end of this century.

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat
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Re: Sunday: Are we so anti-Christian we're turning pro-Islam

Post by UKJ » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:22 am

Bring back Stroppy . I don't think our main Christian on the forum should be ousted, just because Dags has been stalking him and attacking him. Nor should we have to stop mentioning religion. The " Unrelated to me faith" thread must have been a couple of months ago, and Dags was frothing and saying some totally out of line stuff. It's censorship by trolling. No wonder he doesn't drink, as he can't even control himself when sober.
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Re: Sunday: Are we so anti-Christian we're turning pro-Islam

Post by The Add Jay » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:36 am

With my Hindi friends last night. Told them what happened on this forum being called a bigot and shit that I'm not. Their response "let me tell you my friend...England and France are in for a very sad and rude awaking. Us hindis have been fighting them long before they ever did" I dont think many white people realize how serious the situation is.

But thats okay....Raw dog already discredited me via wikipedia. LMFaO!!! loser you are.

Update on that flag in NJ that according to O.D was planted by the KKK and alex jones
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Re: Sunday: Are we so anti-Christian we're turning pro-Islam

Post by Rain Dog » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:44 am

UKJ wrote:Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat:
Yes this guy is well known on the ultra fringe Christian Right.

Very big African Missionary. Hates Muslims with a passion but appears to hate gays more. I admit it is kind of funny to see these BNP like ultra right wingers posting here. Never knew there was such a presence in Cambodia.

An interesting article on his presence in South Africa. Perhaps Vlad can comment.

Christian homophobes are spreading their hate in South Africa

http://www.secularism.org.uk/christian- ... readi.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Christina Engela writes from South Africa

The fundamentalist assault on equality, tolerance and Constitutional protection of human rights in South Africa comes mainly from evangelical churches based in this country, but which often have close ties to local and foreign church groups or societies which share a common intolerant fundamentalist view on matters such as abortion, gay rights and theocracy.

Prime examples of such hate groups in South Africa are Christian Action Network, which is based in Cape Town and whose figurehead, "Dr" Peter Hammond, is involved with radical US religious right groups such as the ICCP (International Church Council Project), which consists of a main committee, and smaller committees which include foreign leaders of churches from around the world. The ICCP is tied into the US Religious Right through its leaders ............

Even The Billy Graham Center rejects this guy as hate speech and fear mongering towards Muslims.

Roy Oksnevad, director of Muslim Ministries at the Billy Graham Center, Wheaton College, gave the following response to my previous post reviewing Peter Hammond’s book, Slavery, Terrorism and Islam.

I would like to affirm Warren Larson’s very eloquent assessment and reaction to Hammond’s book. Though I have not read Peter Hammond’s book, Slavery, Terrorism, and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat, I have read many books similar to this same thesis. Currently I am studying Islam and modernity for work towards my doctorate. There is a growing body of what I call “Fear Literature” that is often perpetrated from the Conservative Right and in particular the Christian Conservative Right ...

http://warrenlarson.wordpress.com/2010/ ... and-islam/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Sunday: Are we so anti-Christian we're turning pro-Islam

Post by UKJ » Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:01 am

Rain Dog wrote: I admit it is kind of funny to see these BNP like ultra right wingers posting here. Never knew there was such a presence in Cambodia.
That is so typical a response by people who want to stop debate. Straight to unfounded assumptions, insults and trying to smear with an unfounded association with the BNP. How pathetic. Even throwing in homophobia! But no comment on the content whatsoever. Just smears. Why not just call the guy a panti sniffer lol.
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Re: Sunday: Are we so anti-Christian we're turning pro-Islam

Post by phuketrichard » Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:06 am

"Religion is the opiate of the masses"

spoken by Mao Tse Tung to the Dali Lama
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Re: Sunday: Are we so anti-Christian we're turning pro-Islam

Post by Rain Dog » Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:09 am

UKJ wrote:Bring back Stroppy . I don't think our main Christian on the forum should be ousted, just because Dags has been stalking him and attacking him. Nor should we have to stop mentioning religion. The " Unrelated to me faith" thread must have been a couple of months ago, and Dags was frothing and saying some totally out of line stuff. It's censorship by trolling. No wonder he doesn't drink, as he can't even control himself when sober.

I do find it fascinating that the likes of you and AddJay are now Stroppy's biggest cheerleaders. It more or less validates my argument as to the hatred and bigotry his original argument leads to.

As far as I know he is welcome to post hear but OD is trying to cool down the religious discussions on these boards.

By the way as to the Isis flag --- I have not been able to verify it on any mainstream News outlet -- only the usual array of Islamophobic hate sites. There was however an incident in London as reported by the Independent (which I do consider to be a valid source).

The point is there is no such thing as an "Isis Flag". There is a flag called the Black Standard in Islamic tradition which is associated with struggle and militancy. Many fly it in support of the Palestinians -- as was proven in the case in London.

The nutters of Isis have simply tried to claim the flag image for themselves as they have also rather crazily tried to claim legitimacy as a Caliphate.

Isis hijacking this flag is no different than militant Jews waving Israeli flags as Palestinian homes are bulldozed or the Westboro Baptist Church members waving American Flags as they troll the funerals of dead American Servicemen.

Sorry to let facts interrupt a good hate rant.
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Re: Sunday: Are we so anti-Christian we're turning pro-Islam

Post by UKJ » Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:13 am

And Dara tries to stop debate by sending a neg telling me my posting style is bad for the board. That's after telling Stroppy he is driving away posters. Coincidence, that everyone who disagrees if Dara is driving away posters!, He accused Stroppy of wanting to mould the board in his image, when it's actually Dara. Go on Dara, shoo away those you don't agree with, and mould it how you guys want!!!!!
Bad for the board, ultra right wing BNP type :ROFL2: For posting an article I read on a Thai forum.
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Re: Sunday: Are we so anti-Christian we're turning pro-Islam

Post by The Add Jay » Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:19 am

Rain Dog wrote:
UKJ wrote:Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat:
Yes this guy is well known on the ultra fringe Christian Right.

Very big African Missionary. Hates Muslims with a passion but appears to hate gays more. I admit it is kind of funny to see these BNP like ultra right wingers posting here. Never knew there was such a presence in Cambodia.

An interesting article on his presence in South Africa. Perhaps Vlad can comment.

Christian homophobes are spreading their hate in South Africa

http://www.secularism.org.uk/christian- ... readi.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Christina Engela writes from South Africa

The fundamentalist assault on equality, tolerance and Constitutional protection of human rights in South Africa comes mainly from evangelical churches based in this country, but which often have close ties to local and foreign church groups or societies which share a common intolerant fundamentalist view on matters such as abortion, gay rights and theocracy.

Prime examples of such hate groups in South Africa are Christian Action Network, which is based in Cape Town and whose figurehead, "Dr" Peter Hammond, is involved with radical US religious right groups such as the ICCP (International Church Council Project), which consists of a main committee, and smaller committees which include foreign leaders of churches from around the world. The ICCP is tied into the US Religious Right through its leaders ............

Even The Billy Graham Center rejects this guy as hate speech and fear mongering towards Muslims.

Roy Oksnevad, director of Muslim Ministries at the Billy Graham Center, Wheaton College, gave the following response to my previous post reviewing Peter Hammond’s book, Slavery, Terrorism and Islam.

I would like to affirm Warren Larson’s very eloquent assessment and reaction to Hammond’s book. Though I have not read Peter Hammond’s book, Slavery, Terrorism, and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat, I have read many books similar to this same thesis. Currently I am studying Islam and modernity for work towards my doctorate. There is a growing body of what I call “Fear Literature” that is often perpetrated from the Conservative Right and in particular the Christian Conservative Right ...

http://warrenlarson.wordpress.com/2010/ ... and-islam/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

very eloquent assessment and reaction to Hammond’s book

LMFAO!!! WHAT A TOOL BAG YOU ARE. I cant!!! :ROFL2: your just fucking with everyone one on this thread. I can feel it you dont buy into the shit you are writing.

What are you going write next about the crusades and how evil it was? Yo buddy just because someones a professor or Dr. doesnt make them smarter then you..it just means they spent more time in their life inside 4 walls making 200k and preaching horseshit that if they actually tried doing so in person...they would be the first ones killed by the ones they are trying to defend.

Im horrified to see how stupid you are...sniffing your own farts cause you read a political piece of propaganda written by a "professor" of Princeton!! He is a genius...when in fact hes self hating white twat who talks about income inequality while he sips wine and eats cheese in a gated community away.(also prob heavily depending on anti depressants)
:Rose: My allah bless you.
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