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Re: RE: Re: K440 & Pedros

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Anchor Moy wrote:
Next: K440 or TOF has 6 pages of discussion about the circumstances of your friend's death. There is also a DIRECT link - with no warning - to the same photo that is on CEO ]Not cool, so I am not going to repost the link to the photo. And I only looked at the first link that Boomer posted, so have no idea what you will find behind the other 4 links to Khmer news sources. Frankly, if there is a lack of respect, it is OTOF in the discussion as well as the links.

As far as CEONews is concerned, I think that a bit of reflexion is due about what photos should be shown - sometimes when the identity is unknown, it can be useful to show photos of the deceased. Otherwise, in general I don't think a photo of the body adds any information, but it will probably be hurtful to the family and friends. This forum is open to whoever wants to look, so that needs to be taken into consideration IMO.


These are all valid points.

Here's where it becomes a catch 22 though....

What's the problem precisely? Is it that the images are accessible? Is it WHERE the images are located? Is it not wanting/choosing to see the images and accidentally seeing them?

Once we quote/link the source, it's accessible for everyone.

So whether it's in a spoiler or just in the link, it's accessible for everyone.

So the ONLY solution to hide it from the public is to NOT post the source at all.

That's a new problem... Everyone typically agrees that you MUST post the source, therefore making the images accessible.

So, if it's accessible, what's the difference of it being in a spoiler hosted elsewhere or just linking directly to the article? I personally don't see one.

If you want to make damn sure you don't end up in the papers post mortem, be sure to die in a country that won't allow it.

Hell, I forget the technicalities, but even in the United States of America the public can get access to autopsies, etc, of dead people that don't consent (Cam Nivag?).

Also, please remember that as a courtesy to members, since this is a site you visit and we consider it your "home turf" on the web, we have in the past and will continue to do so in the future, remove such images or links to, thus hiding them as best we can for members.

To me, that's that same as posting images on someone's Facebook page. It's one thing for you to have to go searching on the web to find such images, and it's another for said images to be posted on your page, posted where you visit or have them sent to you.

We don't go posting these stories on people's personal Facebook page or email them, anyone who seems then is making a conscience effort to do so.

Personally, I always want to see the scene of where an event happened, whether it was a fatal accident, murder, OD or "heart attack."

In a country where the police are known to label every death a heart attack or a case of wind overload, it's kind of a blessing in disguise when that the public are able to see images from the scene and decide for themselves what could or couldn't have happened.

I recall countless times the local papers report nothing more than "died in their hotel room of heart attack." Not very informative. Then, based on the images you start to notice the meth paraphernalia, Viagra, 50 coke cans, women's clothing, etc, and you realize there might be more to the story than reported.

And on top of all of these, there was a Cambodia expat who appears to have faked his own death a few weeks ago, only really dying recently! ! ! WTF. How do we actually know this time that he's actually dead? Why aren't people questioning his death this second round? Well, the images are pretty fucking convincing. Without said images the whole thing would be even more mysterious at this point. Agreed?

It's pretty hard to be convicted of murder in the States if they can't find a body. So, in a country like this, it's especially important to have access to as much media as possible about a case for various reasons.

So, in a spoiler, in a link, painted on my wall at home, on SnapChat.... If you're linking to the source with it, what does the technicalities really matter? We're either making them available or we're not.

The only thing CEO is obligated to do is make damn sure that nobody sees them that doesn't want to. Even that has had a few slip-ups here and there, but they have been honest mistakes, and with the help of members we've been able to better assure it doesn't happen again.

If you don't want to see graphic images, don't go clicking on links and spoilers.

I also thank all members who have kept topics respectful, and those who have taken the time to make a report when comments do from time to time cross the line, which happens a LOT less frequently since the beginning of CEO.

If you have a problem with someone, talk shit while they're still alive and well, because after they're dead you've missed your chance, LoL.

And speaking of Porky.... I probably happen to know more about him than most. That said I respect his well deserved privacy (and maybe more needed than most) and would never give him a hard time about why he chooses to be "Porky" and would never ever reveal anything about him. All I know is that many people found his excellent translations very useful and I thank him for his time and effort.
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Re: K440 & Pedros

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Hotdigr wrote:You also let this comment stand you sycophantic coward -
"Sick of this Samouth coward fucking up both of the Cambodia expat forums.
You can learn a thing or two from pedros."

The day ANYONE can learn ANYTHING about Cambodia from that fukwit Pedros, will be the day I may consider leaving this country. And that will NEVER happen.

i deleted a comment in pedros' post which I considered beyond the pale. I then deleted your entire reply which had quoted JUST that threat.

Frankly, I don't give a shit what you think about me, and you're free to continue calling me a coward or a hypocrite. It's the internet biloeboy. Not real life. I learned that a while ago.

Next time you're in Phnom Penh, please PM me and repeat them to my face, and I'll shake your hand, call you a bit of a dick and I'm sure we'll get on fine. I don't do the internet hard man thing talking about fighting other members. I find it a bit sad.
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I removed a few accusations of "coward" on here.

Damn, I'm fucking jealous of members who are able to make drunken rants.

I won't be able to do anything drunken until I'm in Dubai for Christmas.

As a side-note: Please avoid direct name calling/insults on CEO. While you might otherwise have a valid point to make, it's hard to let your post stand if it comes off as just an insult rather than an idea you're trying to get across.

And as always, if anyone sees something they think crosses the line for whatever reason, feel more than welcome to report it to us or send us a PM. While I can't promise we'll agree with you on everything, we do promise to keep reports and PM's confidential.

Off to the supermarket to buy some legal Whip-its.....
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bendix wrote:
Frankly,
Intentional outing?
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: K440 & Pedros

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General Mackevili wrote: If you don't want to see graphic images, don't go clicking on links and spoilers.
Tapatalk doesn't parse spoiler tags.

Heres what I opened CEO to last week:
Spoiler:
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: K440 & Pedros

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epidemiks wrote:
General Mackevili wrote: If you don't want to see graphic images, don't go clicking on links and spoilers.
Tapatalk doesn't parse spoiler tags.

Heres what I opened CEO to last week:

Xxxx
Correct. Unintentional, and we've figured out we need to add a non-offensive image both before and after offensive images so that it doesn't slip through the Tapatalk cracks again.
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@Epidemiks

I put that in a spoiler for you, LoL. See how easy it was for you to NOT do that?

Again, we make every effort to insure sure that nobody sees that graphic shit accidentally, but we'll make errors from time to time, and I appreciate everyone's forgiveness.

I didn't even think about it not being in a spoiler until just now. :good:
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Username Taken wrote:Just goes to go show that Pedros is full of shit!

I have a pet cat, and I've had her for 15 years. The last thing I need is Samouth sleeping at the end of my bed. :popcorn:
at first glance I read Samouth shitting at the end of your bed
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bendix wrote:
Hotdigr wrote: I also stand by the comment that the admins from K440 are a bunch of hypocritical cunts for allowing your threatening comment to stand, while deleting my reply.

Except we are not, because I deleted the threatening comment from Pedro at the same time as I deleted your reply.

Perhaps you should try reading it again.

Furthermore,any post by any member threatening violence against another poster will be treated the same way unless it's targeted at me, in which case it's acceptable and understandable. People in their 30s and 40s boasting about their fighting prowess need to take a good hard look at themselves in the mirror.
just because you are burnt out doesn't mean others are . I 'll fight any man on this forum! :assasin:
General Mackevili: I just don't want you littering our forum with your drivel.
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Do I get to weigh in here? Great.

1. I think General Mackevili and especially Scobienz are pussies when it comes to the issue of links to local stories that include death photos. Just post the links. Everyone knows that when they click on a link to a story in the the local press about a death, there may be a dead body photo. If you're going to be traumatized by that, don't click the link. I certainly agree that when the photo is really graphic, warn people. But allow the links, and don't go restricting information and deleting links just because it turns out that the dead guy had drinking buddies who are forum members. The same standards should apply to stories about all dead expats, regardless of whether they were known or unknown to forum members, and regardless of whether their family members read the forums.

2. Death photos are absolutely relevant and newsworthy in the case of Patrice Auclair, since he and/or his friends apparently faked his death last month and created a lot of confusion about whether the story about him being found dead at Billabong was accurate. Without the photos, his friends probably would have said the story was sloppy and inaccurate Khmer journalism and/or mistaken identity.

3. Some of these vicious personal attacks on the boards using personal information about posters is ugly and I think General Mackevili and Scobienz are pussies using poor judgment in allowing that. I'm referring to Vlad v. Gin & Tonic and now Pedros v. Samouth. I think Pedros was well out of line outing Samouth by publishing information about his new job that would have outed him any representatives of his new employer. That was a dick move.

4. There have been a lot of allegations, including months ago by me, that Samouth translates the news articles for CEO. I think CEO/Samouth could have ignored those allegations, or refused to confirm them, or CEO could have just deleted those allegations and explained why. Instead, both CEO and Samouth chose to directly deny the allegations. Those denials are troublesome to some readers. Samouth wants to be a journalist, and credibility and honesty and integrity are the most important aspects of that profession. I understand that he didn't like people publicly speculating online that he was translating the articles, but I think his response -- to deny it -- was stupid and immature and calls his honesty, integrity, and fitness to be a journalist into serious question.

5. Scobienz is a pussy about other stuff too, I'll probably think of more later.
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