How did we get here?
How did we get here?
In the past week or so I've read such comments as (articles/memes etc in support of):
Putin is within his rights to invade Ukraine because (insert reason here).
Ukrainian govt/troops/civilians have been massacring eastern Ukrainians for 8 years.
Western 'elites' are just trying to blame Putin for all their problems.
Biden being a bigger threat to the US than Putin.
These mostly seem to be from 'Western' board members. My question is how did our citizenry go from the defeat of Nazism, Macarthy's Red Scare, the Cold War et al. to defending a Russian dictator's (because what else can you honestly call him) invasion of a sovereign European nation.
In 1939 Hitler claimed that he was annexing Poland to defend Polish Germans from state sponsored ethnic cleansing...
Putin is within his rights to invade Ukraine because (insert reason here).
Ukrainian govt/troops/civilians have been massacring eastern Ukrainians for 8 years.
Western 'elites' are just trying to blame Putin for all their problems.
Biden being a bigger threat to the US than Putin.
These mostly seem to be from 'Western' board members. My question is how did our citizenry go from the defeat of Nazism, Macarthy's Red Scare, the Cold War et al. to defending a Russian dictator's (because what else can you honestly call him) invasion of a sovereign European nation.
In 1939 Hitler claimed that he was annexing Poland to defend Polish Germans from state sponsored ethnic cleansing...
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pootylicious
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Re: How did we get here?
good topic
are you old? what non-mainstream news sources do you read?
are you old? what non-mainstream news sources do you read?
Re: How did we get here?
Well if everything the mainstream media says is false then wouldn't the opposite of what they say be closer to the truth?
They are all portraying Putin as a bad man so logically he must be a reasonable person while the MSM is clearly up to no good.
They are all portraying Putin as a bad man so logically he must be a reasonable person while the MSM is clearly up to no good.
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Re: How did we get here?
Good topic yet you fail to address it's central question. Instead you've asked how old I am, what is the relevance? And what non-mainstream news sources I read.pootylicious wrote: ↑Fri Mar 18, 2022 6:42 am good topic
are you old? what non-mainstream news sources do you read?
Could you define, mainstream/non-mainstream so I can make sure any news source I mention fits your definition. And I mean define, not just list a few news corporations you don't like.
Also interested what my age has got to do with it. Do you disagree with people based on their age? Is there a certain age when you become unable to comprehend certain news?
How about instead you contextualise your belief that only you and a few select individuals know the "truth" that is being concealed from the rest of us?
Re: How did we get here?
What is RT, Channel One, Russia-1 and NTV if not mainstream media? Surely it's just Russian language mainstream media as opposed to US/UK etc mainstream media? They are all supporting Putin, so Putin is bad?
Re: How did we get here?
Youth is wasted on the young.pootylicious wrote: ↑Fri Mar 18, 2022 6:42 am good topic
are you old? what non-mainstream news sources do you read?
George Bernard Shaw
Re: How did we get here?
Opposing powerful nations require a neutral buffer country between them. Without it the chances of conflict becomes too high.
The neutrality of the buffer between NATO and Russia has become insufficient.
China v Taiwan, India v Pakistan, Iran v a few , are all probably watching closely, possibly even encouraging the conflict, are they all wondering “is this it, is this our chance..”
Covid has given military commanders a once in a lifetime wave of advantages.
I think that any and every further escalation will only bring further confirmation that WW3 has started.
De-escalation is possible at any and every moment, I hope for it, without faith.
Without de-escalation, I think the end of WW3 will be in about 18 months time when America looses its shit, just after Israel is either attacked or destroyed.(I'm not encouraging or endorsing that.)
How did we get here? The world cant support everyone having the unsustainable lifestyle so many have either become accustom to or aspire to have…. Plus the inability for that unsustainable lifestyle to adapt to the ever changing and artificially accelerated climatechange. These problems force the hands of the "politics" via economic stress to make decisions counter to our species longevity.
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I need to go out more.
The neutrality of the buffer between NATO and Russia has become insufficient.
China v Taiwan, India v Pakistan, Iran v a few , are all probably watching closely, possibly even encouraging the conflict, are they all wondering “is this it, is this our chance..”
Covid has given military commanders a once in a lifetime wave of advantages.
I think that any and every further escalation will only bring further confirmation that WW3 has started.
De-escalation is possible at any and every moment, I hope for it, without faith.
Without de-escalation, I think the end of WW3 will be in about 18 months time when America looses its shit, just after Israel is either attacked or destroyed.(I'm not encouraging or endorsing that.)
How did we get here? The world cant support everyone having the unsustainable lifestyle so many have either become accustom to or aspire to have…. Plus the inability for that unsustainable lifestyle to adapt to the ever changing and artificially accelerated climatechange. These problems force the hands of the "politics" via economic stress to make decisions counter to our species longevity.
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I need to go out more.
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Re: How did we get here?
It's the standard Q Anon line, which quite a few posters here seem to follow.down_time wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:09 pm These mostly seem to be from 'Western' board members. My question is how did our citizenry go from the defeat of Nazism, Macarthy's Red Scare, the Cold War et al. to defending a Russian dictator's (because what else can you honestly call him) invasion of a sovereign European nation.
Whenever a general consensus on a topic has been reached by journalists, researchers, scientists, civil rights leaders and functioning society as a whole, Anons will interpret this as a sure sign that their duty is to throw themselves wholeheartedly behind the opposite position, regardless of what it might be. If 99% of scientists conclude that oxygen is a necessity for human life, a large chunk of Anons will begin trying to hold their breath out of spite.
https://www.pastemagazine.com/politics/ ... xecutions/
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Re: How did we get here?
I suppose that Russian state controlled media is not considered MSM because it often oppose what's being said in the west. Thus if you know that the western MSM is lying the Russian media starts looking a whole lot better.
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Re: How did we get here?
Extending that logic how can, for example, CNN and Fox News be both considered mainstream media. They often, if not always air opposing views.
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