CEO and Khmer440 reach a GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT!

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Re: CEO and Khmer440 reach a GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT!

Postby General Mackevili » Fri May 30, 2014 9:00 am

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Re: CEO and Khmer440 reach a GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT!

Postby Singularian » Fri May 30, 2014 10:21 am

Joon wrote:Socrates, you just sound as bitter and vindictive.
KiR has been silent in the last few days. He's either busy or taking some time off from K440.
K440 managing folks made it clear they don't want a feud. And CEO management agrees with that. You should follow their lead.

Hey, wait a minute, isn't this the place of 'internet freedom' and 'openness' ?

Socrates should be able to voice any opinion he likes.

You can't start a bitch fight, have 3 weeks of discussing (encouraging) it and then think you can treat your users like tame monkeys and get them to sit back down in the cheap seats en-mass.

IMO - K440s' more sensible owners/admins saw what was heading their way if they left the petulant little wannabe in charge of putting out this particular fire. They have made the only sensible move, from an increasingly limited list of options, that they could.

However, they still have the problem that the same petulant little prick has managed in the last month to cause huge amounts of damage to their, already somewhat tattered, reputation.

In particular the publishing of supposed private messages and the use of those messages in a completely out of context way to insinuate that a person is involved in activities/crimes that all of us would find abhorrent and sickening went well beyond the pale. The fact that KIR actually knows that person IRL just adds to the magnitude of the smear.

As I know the person smeared by KIR/K440, I am not really prepared to sit down and be a good monkey until there is a public apology issued. I take it extremely seriously that he has tried to trash my friend in this way and I'm pissed about it.

I'm new around here but I have read the k440 archives pretty extensively and have seen the vindictive way the site/KIR has gone after people in years past. This time however he has gone a little too far with that game and needs to man up and admit he's done wrong. He needs to apologise publicly (ie - a pinned, for a couple of months, apology at the top of the speakeasy) for the ruin he has attemped on an innocent mans reputation. After that I could just about forgive K440 for allowing this to happen. KIR not so much.

Calling a 'truce' favors K440 far more than this site, they are the ones on defense. They are the ones losing readership. They are the ones losing advertisers. They are the losers thus far in the battle that they created. So CEO is doing them a favor by backing off. Fair enough.

I personally will have no problem taking KIR to task IRL for the disgusting thing he has tried to do to my friend and until he has apoligised I will not be visting K440 and I will not stop dissing them at every opportunity.
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Re: CEO and Khmer440 reach a GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT!

Postby Joon » Fri May 30, 2014 10:27 am

As you suggested, get a rendez-vous with KiR and tell him face-to-face.

As far as I can tell from Orange Dragon and General Mack statements ONLINE, they have resolved this issue offline, or they are able to resolve it offline.

Continuing to foster resentment and bitterness online is damaging to this site as well.
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Re: CEO and Khmer440 reach a GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT!

Postby JBTrain » Fri May 30, 2014 10:47 am

Singularian wrote:
Joon wrote:Socrates, you just sound as bitter and vindictive.
KiR has been silent in the last few days. He's either busy or taking some time off from K440.
K440 managing folks made it clear they don't want a feud. And CEO management agrees with that. You should follow their lead.

Hey, wait a minute, isn't this the place of 'internet freedom' and 'openness' ?

Socrates should be able to voice any opinion he likes.

You can't start a bitch fight, have 3 weeks of discussing (encouraging) it and then think you can treat your users like tame monkeys and get them to sit back down in the cheap seats en-mass.

IMO - K440s' more sensible owners/admins saw what was heading their way if they left the petulant little wannabe in charge of putting out this particular fire. They have made the only sensible move, from an increasingly limited list of options, that they could.

However, they still have the problem that the same petulant little prick has managed in the last month to cause huge amounts of damage to their, already somewhat tattered, reputation.

In particular the publishing of supposed private messages and the use of those messages in a completely out of context way to insinuate that a person is involved in activities/crimes that all of us would find abhorrent and sickening went well beyond the pale. The fact that KIR actually knows that person IRL just adds to the magnitude of the smear.

As I know the person smeared by KIR/K440, I am not really prepared to sit down and be a good monkey until there is a public apology issued. I take it extremely seriously that he has tried to trash my friend in this way and I'm pissed about it.

I'm new around here but I have read the k440 archives pretty extensively and have seen the vindictive way the site/KIR has gone after people in years past. This time however he has gone a little too far with that game and needs to man up and admit he's done wrong. He needs to apologise publicly (ie - a pinned, for a couple of months, apology at the top of the speakeasy) for the ruin he has attemped on an innocent mans reputation. After that I could just about forgive K440 for allowing this to happen. KIR not so much.

Calling a 'truce' favors K440 far more than this site, they are the ones on defense. They are the ones losing readership. They are the ones losing advertisers. They are the losers thus far in the battle that they created. So CEO is doing them a favor by backing off. Fair enough.

I personally will have no problem taking KIR to task IRL for the disgusting thing he has tried to do to my friend and until he has apoligised I will not be visting K440 and I will not stop dissing them at every opportunity.
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Re: CEO and Khmer440 reach a GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT!

Postby OrangeDragon » Fri May 30, 2014 11:46 am

I do find it amusing that the thread over there as degraded into personal insults, mod threats, etc.
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Re: CEO and Khmer440 reach a GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT!

Postby Joker Poker » Fri May 30, 2014 11:56 am

Yeah, just saw that. I suspect there will be another exodus soon.
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Re: CEO and Khmer440 reach a GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT!

Postby Milord » Fri May 30, 2014 11:59 am

OrangeDragon wrote:I do find it amusing that the thread over there has degraded into personal insults, mod threats, etc.
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Re: CEO and Khmer440 reach a GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT!

Postby vladimir » Fri May 30, 2014 12:02 pm

The only way to resolve this is for vladimir to be appointed a mod on 440, as Playboy suggested. (Yes, he DID)

And let me state the obvious: the public dissing does NOT injure this site at all: in fact, I think it helps, a whole lot of people came over here to see what all the fuss was about, saw a new land, and several decided to stay.

Numbers are up, as is traffic. How can that be bad?
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Re: CEO and Khmer440 reach a GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT!

Postby OrangeDragon » Fri May 30, 2014 12:04 pm

vladimir wrote:The only way to resolve this is for vladimir to be appointed a mod on 440, as Playboy suggested. (Yes, he DID)

And let me state the obvious: the public dissing does NOT injure this site at all: in fact, I think it helps, a whole lot of people came over here to see what all the fuss was about, saw a new land, and several decided to stay.

Numbers are up, as is traffic. How can that be bad?
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Re: CEO and Khmer440 reach a GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT!

Postby frank lee bent » Fri May 30, 2014 12:09 pm

"degraded into personal insults, mod threats, etc."
amusing yes- surprising no.
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