Honda Wave vs. Honda Dream....

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Re: Honda Wave vs. Honda Dream....

Postby Kuroneko » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:29 pm

juansweetpotato wrote:
Anyhow, you're still making me para, so - any idea where I can buy genuine Honda parts in Cambodia? If not, how about a good Jap/ Thai replacement?
I should imagine the Honda ones will set me back around $100 though.
The main dealers stock genuine parts, and replacement copies can be had from around Oursey market . When I ran my CBR I always used genuine Honda parts from the Honda dealer and had service and repairs done there also. Similarly with my Yamaha I always get it serviced at the main dealer and use their genuine Yamaha spares.
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Re: Honda Wave vs. Honda Dream....

Postby Kuroneko » Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:24 pm

LionsLeftTesticle wrote:Can I ask why people like geared bikes instead of fully automatic?

I remember renting my first geared bike. Swapped it for an automatic within an hour.

Did I miss something?
Depends what your using the bike for and your general experience with bikes. Obviously a fully automatic is Ideal for an absolute beginner to use around town. I think for any experienced rider automatic gears would be a pain in the ass, as every time you want to accelerate, the gears "change up" and you get nowhere. Manual gears give you a lot of control, particularly when accelerating. However a manual clutch can be a pain in heavy traffic as you are forever "declutching". An automatic clutch saves that effort and is therefore great in busy traffic.

My choice for around town is therefore a semi automatic "underbone" design as they handle very well and are still ok for shopping and taking the wife/girlfriend out. If you like a sporty feel to the bike I would also look for the best reported performance characteristics for the bikes size. Some of these small underbone design bikes are raced and so the stock model comes with added performance characteristics as standard.

If on the other hand you are doing off road riding or some distance riding on the road a bike with manual gears and clutch would be the better option.
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Re: Honda Wave vs. Honda Dream....

Postby Raybull » Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:25 pm

Barang_doa_slae wrote:Then you need a clutch geared bike, the semi auto won't bring you satisfaction.
Again you should consider an MCX. I have a feeling Raybull will approve since he thinks it's a good bike.
I agree, semi autos are kind of lame TBH. They all seem to have the shifters with the rear downshifter pedal aswell. Bloody annoying! And if you own another bike with a clutch it's a hassle with the different gear setup.
The MSX is a useless bike, Kampot is as far as I've taken it and it wasn't particularly fun. Small wheels are the main problem, every pothole and bump seems like it's three times bigger than when I ride my other bike with regular sized rims.
What about the Yamaha Exciter 150? Good enough for road trips too! There's a few around so easy parts and cheap enough for what you're getting. Image
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Re: Honda Wave vs. Honda Dream....

Postby Bitte_Kein_Lexus » Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:34 pm

I find full auto bikes shit in traffic. They've got zero torque. I much prefer to get into second and ride low on a semi-auto. Admittedly, I'm also just not used to full auto bikes.
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Re: Honda Wave vs. Honda Dream....

Postby Raybull » Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:39 pm

Jamie_Lambo wrote:
Barang_doa_slae wrote:Then you need a clutch geared bike, the semi auto won't bring you satisfaction.
Again you should consider an MCX. I have a feeling Raybull will approve since he thinks it's a good bike.
yes not complete satisfaction, but simplicity if ive had a few sherberts that evening
Yeah driving a cluched bike will keep you more sober. It'll pay for itself within a few months just by cutting your bar tabs in half!
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Re: Honda Wave vs. Honda Dream....

Postby beaker » Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:54 pm

Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote:I find full auto bikes shit in traffic. They've got zero torque. I much prefer to get into second and ride low on a semi-auto. Admittedly, I'm also just not used to full auto bikes.
my Honda Forza dosen't have any gears and with the k-mod (changes in variometer weights) has plenty of torque and absolutely no shifting just twist and go but out of that price range.
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Re: Honda Wave vs. Honda Dream....

Postby Bitte_Kein_Lexus » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:09 pm

Perhaps, but it'll never give you as much control as a clutched or semi auto bike. Ever try towing someone on a Scoopy? Horrible... Granted, auto is fine for virtually every situation you might encounter in the city. I still think a Wave for $1200 can't be beat.
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Re: Honda Wave vs. Honda Dream....

Postby juansweetpotato » Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:38 pm

Jamie_Lambo wrote:
LionsLeftTesticle wrote:Can I ask why people like geared bikes instead of fully automatic?

I remember renting my first geared bike. Swapped it for an automatic within an hour.

Did I miss something?
some people prefer eating take away, others cooking the real thing
some people prefer fucking sex dolls, others fucking the real thing
etc.


nothing wrong with automatic bikes and cars, i can see the appeal, but for me its a much more fun experience riding/driving a geared bike/car
its not too bad if its an Airblade with a 4 stroke engine, but some of the hairdryers that are about... i just couldnt

these was my first bikes at 16 years old
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Isn't that bike 50 cc though? :stir: They make a 50cc moped that looks exactly like that. Bloody Uk 50 cc rules. Great looking bikes though.
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Re: Honda Wave vs. Honda Dream....

Postby juansweetpotato » Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:59 pm

Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote:Perhaps, but it'll never give you as much control as a clutched or semi auto bike. Ever try towing someone on a Scoopy? Horrible... Granted, auto is fine for virtually every situation you might encounter in the city. I still think a Wave for $1200 can't be beat.
Agree on the clutched v automatic. Thanks for the advice on Honda shop. :thumb:

Yep, Wave is still no 1 in my book, along with the older Dreams. The mark 1 and 2 Dreams were very solid bikes and 125cc of course when Waves were only 100/110. The new 125 Waves are excellent. The only thing I have heard about the two in comparison - Dream v Wave - is that the Wave (100/110) tends to overheat if your doing a lot of mountain work. In Vietnam for example.

Otherwise, if you want a bike that is cheap to run, has people and parts for repair all over Asia, is pretty much 100% reliable, AND -as per the Kampot guide - will take you places a real trial bike will - then get a Wave. If they get submerged in water and cut out, you just get someone to help you hold it up and let the water drain out of the exhaust and your good to go again.

I've even taken mine on long journeys. Just strap a large bag on the back and use it as a back rest. I wish the handlebars were slightly higher though, but no real problem.

Easy, simple, cheap and reliable with places to carry and hang things. The Honda Wave. It's not for nothing that there are so many of them around. You won't look cool though. :D IMO, every other scooter like the Wave is just made to try and compete with it.
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Re: Honda Wave vs. Honda Dream....

Postby phuketrichard » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:07 pm

i hvae used 125 waves in lots of places on my trips in Burma;
last one was 1,600 kms thru the Chin state and 1 trip to Hsipaw and Mogok.

Got 27,000 kms on mine here and all i have done is change the oil, spark plugs twice, chain, tires and brakes

fix them anywhere and goes on and one
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