Zero and zero is nothing but zero
Cancer and people conspire together
Running and running and going forever
Collected and sampled, starving for zero

Minus the inside and minus the circle
Inhabit the riddle and fill in the hovel
Wherein and herein, between us and near us
Zero and zero is nothing but zero

Or more shortly expressed, "nothing is something inside out."

Mr Trump is doing what he said he would do.
He is going to cut the gordian knot of the two Koreas, and force Russia to decide to maintain the status quo or opt for change.
In case anyone wonders, I am not a fan.

Look how old the Korean war is.
China will also have to decide.
Trump is fully capable of using nukes.

frank lee bent wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:05 pm Mr Trump is doing what he said he would do.
He is going to cut the gordian knot of the two Koreas, and force Russia to decide to maintain the status quo or opt for change.
In case anyone wonders, I am not a fan.

Look how old the Korean war is.
China will also have to decide.
Trump is fully capable of using nukes.

Yes he is, and he is one of few to do so.

"Yes he is, and he is one of few to do so." I wonder if you were S. Korean if you would have so much gungho nationalism. Causing a country to be vaporized is a heavy price to pay for"victory." The US would have little to lose except for military personnel and civilians currently living there. And yes he is "one of the few, " in fact there was only one other. So with good reason one first pursues a more prudent course of action.

I believe you mean Colonel Kurtz. A good way to lose completely.

taabarang wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:25 pm "Yes he is, and he is one of few to do so." I wonder if you were S. Korean if you would have so much gungho nationalism. Causing a country to be vaporized is a heavy price to pay for"victory." The US would have little to lose except for military personnel and civilians currently living there. And yes he is "one of the few, " in fact there was only one other. So with good reason one first pursues a more prudent course of action.

"in fact there is only one other"? Is the source for this fact the media? Agree, the US has little to lose with this one, as most other conflicts they started. All abroad off course. Nationalism does probably apply the least to me amongst all posters here. Its complex, and I won't elaborate. Maybe to get my point across I should have said : 'Yes he is, so are others'. I am not a teacher and try to do my best with this language.
Not sure yet, but I think we are on the same page here.

taabarang wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:51 pm I believe you mean Colonel Kurtz. A good way to lose completely.

yup, not a better way to lose completely.

frank lee bent wrote: ↑Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:05 pm Mr Trump is doing what he said he would do.
He is going to cut the gordian knot of the two Koreas, and force Russia to decide to maintain the status quo or opt for change.
In case anyone wonders, I am not a fan.

Look how old the Korean war is.
China will also have to decide.
Trump is fully capable of using nukes.

I had a friend that fought there in 1950, and like my father who fought at Kohima in 1945, the battle at chosin was an epic and often forgot battle:

"In the winter of 1950, 15,000 U.S. Soldiers and Marines were surrounded and trapped by an overwhelming force of communist Chinese soldiers in the frozen mountains of North Korea. Facing impossible odds, the men fought 78 miles to freedom and saved the lives of 98,000 civilian refugees."