These little bikes have gotta be the best bang for buck in the overpriced Cambodian small bike market. With the super low Chinese import taxe rate agreement on vehicles and bikes, these little Taiwanese toys are down to 1250$ Card kri incl. The same model sells for 3200$++ in the states, and the same thai imports are around 2600$. My neighbour has a bike shop that has pretty much morphed into an MSX sell and mod shop. Gonna get one this week cause I'm bored...anybody riding one?

I've seen them around Snookyville and wondered what the heck they were. I though they may have been some kind of mainland Chinese clone.

Yeah they've been popular in Thailand and elsewhere since it was introduced in late 2013. Never caught on so much here as the thailand models were expensive, but the market is being flooded with the taiwanese factory ones now that are half price. Build quality seems pretty good, and its a cheap price for the fun you get from it (assuming you don't kill yourself on it).

I've been looking at one of those 'monkey" bikes on Chinese buy-it web sites. I just wanted something I could throw in the back of my truck and take out to Ream Park or other interesting places and ride without the problems of license, road fee and weight. The quality is probably not very good. The M125 looks to be a little too big.

It's a pretty small bike the rims are inly 12inches but it's reasonably heavy, over 100kg, if you get a truck ramp made it's not an issue and the quality is definitely better then the typical chinese crap. Put some dual purpose rubber and you could have a blast riding the back roads.

The cheaper version are cheap copies and at least the ones I've seen (not in Cambodia but in China itself), are 80cc, not 125s and based on the much lighter duty Lifan engines, not a direct copy of the Honda 125. Could be different in Cambodia, but either way, it is a cheap way to get into something that looks more expensive than it is, so I guess that's why they're taking off here.

Also, I am venturing to say that the "Taiwanese" versions are really just mainland Chinese versions. I've found that a lot of sellers like to say things are from Taiwan and not China since Chinese products don't have a great reputation, so I wouldn't be surprised to find that the bikes themselves aren't all that great.

Buy locks. They're the new scoopy.
Second hand Thai imports,tbe actual Hondas, are advertised for 1500 ish on fb regularly

AE86 wrote:The cheaper version are cheap copies and at least the ones I've seen (not in Cambodia but in China itself), are 80cc, not 125s and based on the much lighter duty Lifan engines, not a direct copy of the Honda 125. Could be different in Cambodia, but either way, it is a cheap way to get into something that looks more expensive than it is, so I guess that's why they're taking off here.

Also, I am venturing to say that the "Taiwanese" versions are really just mainland Chinese versions. I've found that a lot of sellers like to say things are from Taiwan and not China since Chinese products don't have a great reputation, so I wouldn't be surprised to find that the bikes themselves aren't all that great.

I guess that's the big question: whether they really are made in Taiwan, or just a cheap mainland version copied from the Taiwan factory. Might never know! The North American version is definitely made in Taiwan though, I believed it's called the Grom. Good thing is they're cheap and easy enough to fix.

epidemiks wrote:Buy locks. They're the new scoopy.
Second hand Thai imports,tbe actual Hondas, are advertised for 1500 ish on fb regularly

Altleast they're half the price of the Scoopy so it doesn't sting as much if stolen. I think all the thai ones that cheap don't have taxes paid.

I like them, as the sailor says great for throwing in the back of the truck for some cheap thrills in the bush.