prahkeitouj wrote:I'm not sure if I'm confused your question or not. It doesn't have Khmer text into English.

prahkeitouj wrote:Maybe isn't what you want.

Jamie_Lambo wrote:as far as i am/was aware there is no direct definite translation from khmer script into romany, its just an interpretation

juansweetpotato wrote:I have noticed that when I get my students to look up new words in their dictionaries they keep giving different transliterations for the words from Khmer script to Roman script.

Is there a definitive Khmer- English/ English Khmer dictionary that uses a standardized transliteration ?

PS Remember before not answering Samouth, I'm trying to help your people here.

walkjivefly01 wrote:

juansweetpotato wrote:I have noticed that when I get my students to look up new words in their dictionaries they keep giving different transliterations for the words from Khmer script to Roman script.

Is there a definitive Khmer- English/ English Khmer dictionary that uses a standardized transliteration ?

PS Remember before not answering Samouth, I'm trying to help your people here.

Haven't you been here long enough yet to know there is NO standardised transliteration. Everyone does their own thing.

juansweetpotato wrote:

walkjivefly01 wrote:

juansweetpotato wrote:I have noticed that when I get my students to look up new words in their dictionaries they keep giving different transliterations for the words from Khmer script to Roman script.

Is there a definitive Khmer- English/ English Khmer dictionary that uses a standardized transliteration ?

PS Remember before not answering Samouth, I'm trying to help your people here.

Haven't you been here long enough yet to know there is NO standardised transliteration. Everyone does their own thing.

That's what I thought, but I also thought Id give it a go. As heaven forbid, I may be wrong.





Looks like I wasn't though

Jamie_Lambo wrote:

juansweetpotato wrote:

walkjivefly01 wrote:

juansweetpotato wrote:I have noticed that when I get my students to look up new words in their dictionaries they keep giving different transliterations for the words from Khmer script to Roman script.

Is there a definitive Khmer- English/ English Khmer dictionary that uses a standardized transliteration ?

PS Remember before not answering Samouth, I'm trying to help your people here.

Haven't you been here long enough yet to know there is NO standardised transliteration. Everyone does their own thing.

That's what I thought, but I also thought Id give it a go. As heaven forbid, I may be wrong.





Looks like I wasn't though

it doesn't really work because sometimes i have to write like 2 or 3 letters just to get the 1 khmer sound, just a simple one is like the "Dt" sound some people just hear D orhters T but its a Dt sound, other ones that can get confusing is the Ch-J, G-K, B-P sounds which all sound quite similar in the English Alphabet

There is no 1:1 correlation between the languages of the world and their writing systems. In some cases, a particular writing system may be used to transcribe a single language (e.g. Thai, Malayalam), but in other cases, a writing system may be used to transcribe multiple languages (e.g. Latin, Cyrillic). In a few cases labels confuse people; for instance, the Arabic writing system is used to represent the Arabic language, along with several others (e.g. Urdu, Dari, Persian).



When people talk about translation, they typically refer to the mapping semantic content from one language into another. Each string in the first column above represents a translation of the English word cat into some other language. This is famously difficult to do well – not just for computers, but even sometimes for bilingual humans. It’s all well and good when you limit yourself to translating the word cat, but gets awfully hard when you move anything with syntactic complexity, and unbelievably hard when you move to anything of significant length. Anyone who has ever studied a foreign language probably has a pretty good idea of how hard this is. Even fluently bilingual people tend to have a hard time doing this to their own satisfaction.



Transliteration is another kind of mapping, only instead of mapping from one language to another, transliteration maps from one writing system to another. If you think of a writing system as a purely notational form for designating the spoken language, it’s easy to see where this kind of mapping might come in handy. By transposing strings from an unfamiliar writing system to a familiar one, the reader knows how to pronounce – and in some cases therefore semantically interpret the content. Japanese children, for instance, encounter unfamiliar Kanji all the time as they’re learning to read. Oftentimes they may know the word that the Kanji is representing in the spoken language, but they have no way to connect the word they’re used to hearing with the Kanji that they see in front of them. In fact, Japanese has a phonetic notational system – Yomigana – expressly designed to help Japanese speakers (adults as well as children) read unfamiliar Kanji terms, and there is a standard transliteration of Japanese into Latin script that is frequently used by non-native speakers of Japanese to help them pronounce new Japanese words that they encounter.

In many cases, transliteration really refers to some kind of phonetic transcription, helpful either for non-native speaker scenarios as above or in cases where a particular language may be standardly written in multiple writing systems (e.g. Serbian, which may be written in Latin or Cyrillic scripts). However, in one of the most common use cases for transliteration – the mapping between Traditional and Simplified Chinese – sound doesn’t enter into it, as both writing systems are ideographic and not alphabetic or syllabic. This mapping counts as transliteration rather than translation because it is a transposition between two writing systems that represent the same underlying spoken language, rather than a transposition between two distinct spoken languages.

juansweetpotato wrote:I have noticed that when I get my students to look up new words in their dictionaries they keep giving different transliterations for the words from Khmer script to Roman script.

Is there a definitive Khmer- English/ English Khmer dictionary that uses a standardized transliteration ?

PS Remember before not answering Samouth, I'm trying to help your people here.