khmerre wrote:I dont have any experience with bar girls, but more with "gray girls" . With them in Cambodia you can have a great time and for "free" or better just with some dinner and.... without any cash transaction involved. Or maybe it is just my experience.

It is wondering for me to hear that Jamie would like to settle down wit a good girl (virgin). I think in a relationship sex plays an important role, maybe not the most, and I would never take a virgin in Cambodia because without a commitmernt (the man is an asshole) and with serious intentions would be to risky to have a partner with whom the sex could be not so great. The attitude towards sex of the cambodian girls is often very different form the western girls and maybe it is better to test it before the marriage. E.g. my 2 cent expreience ist that masturbation is unusual for khmer girls ( I dont know about khmer boys) whereas western girls (wifes) do it and use toys too (forbidden in Cambodia)

You can have a great time with bar girls for free as well if you go about it the right way, the past 4 girls ive been with recently all work in bars here in SHV, no cash transactions involved (or barfines), just mutual fun

i agree with what you say, in previous relationships for me, and i guess its the same with most people, sex is glue, its the physical/emotional bonding etc...
but for me, that can and has kept me in relationships that i shouldnt really be in (bargirls, strippers, lying whores etc etc.),
i do appreciate the point though where the sex might not be so great (to start with?) and with my history a lot of people thought i was taking the piss lol
but if i take away the option of sex i can really focus on the other important things about the girl in question, where as before i might have over looked certain traits due to thinking more with my dick...
i dont know, i think the girl giving the symbol of her virginity a much more powerful thing than whether she can fuck like a pornstar, maybe the attraction of that is due to the fact with most girls losing their virginity at the age of 14 in the UK its completely lost all meaning and the "Virgin" label is something everyone wants to get rid of ASAP... as its not "cool".... its not something ive ever thought about or considered before coming over here and realising how much of a powerful symbol it is, maybe ive got myself to engulfed in the khmer culture

anyway going back to the virgin girls in the bars, i actively seek them out, i regularly go out drinking in hostess bars, but rarely with the intention of taking girls home, as i often bar hop and can visit 5-10 bars a night of regular bars i frequent, i find the original girls far more genuine company, dont hussle you for drinks, are quite happy to sit and chat with you without spilling the tiresome flirty bargirl chat up lines, often speak little english which is good practice for me, and also to have a virgin girl in a seedy atmosphere i find strangely (respectfully) attractive, i think it shows good character

not met one expat in cambodia who has married (otherwise how else are you going to be her sex partner if she is a proper virgin?) a "proper" khmer girl yet.they all seem to be ex bar girls,you can usually tell by their demeanor.
if they have worked in a bar,virgin or not,then they cant be proper khmer girls.
they are supposed to be shy and natural and certainly would not let a man who is not family touch them.

maybe thats the grey girls you mention,not bar girls but not really traditional either?

ok,lets say i have never met an expat who has married a traditional girl.

SinnSisamouth wrote:ok,lets say i have never met an expat who has married a traditional girl.

yep, u need to widen ur social circle

bolueeleh wrote:

SinnSisamouth wrote:ok,lets say i have never met an expat who has married a traditional girl.

yep, u need to widen ur social circle

already do the hill,the beach,downtown,where do i widen it too?

SinnSisamouth wrote:

bolueeleh wrote:

SinnSisamouth wrote:ok,lets say i have never met an expat who has married a traditional girl.

yep, u need to widen ur social circle

already do the hill,the beach,downtown,where do i widen it too?

for someone who says they drink in Charlie Harpers, yet youve not ever met YaTingPoms (now) wife who works/worked there
his wife is a traditional girl who doesnt even touch other men, the first day i met her she embarrassingly turned my offer of a handshake down and gave me a polite Sampeah instead

Jamie_Lambo wrote:

khmerre wrote:I dont have any experience with bar girls, but more with "gray girls" . With them in Cambodia you can have a great time and for "free" or better just with some dinner and.... without any cash transaction involved. Or maybe it is just my experience.

It is wondering for me to hear that Jamie would like to settle down wit a good girl (virgin). I think in a relationship sex plays an important role, maybe not the most, and I would never take a virgin in Cambodia because without a commitmernt (the man is an asshole) and with serious intentions would be to risky to have a partner with whom the sex could be not so great. The attitude towards sex of the cambodian girls is often very different form the western girls and maybe it is better to test it before the marriage. E.g. my 2 cent expreience ist that masturbation is unusual for khmer girls ( I dont know about khmer boys) whereas western girls (wifes) do it and use toys too (forbidden in Cambodia)

You can have a great time with bar girls for free as well if you go about it the right way, the past 4 girls ive been with recently all work in bars here in SHV, no cash transactions involved (or barfines), just mutual fun

i agree with what you say, in previous relationships for me, and i guess its the same with most people, sex is glue, its the physical/emotional bonding etc...
but for me, that can and has kept me in relationships that i shouldnt really be in (bargirls, strippers, lying whores etc etc.),
i do appreciate the point though where the sex might not be so great (to start with?) and with my history a lot of people thought i was taking the piss lol
but if i take away the option of sex i can really focus on the other important things about the girl in question, where as before i might have over looked certain traits due to thinking more with my dick...
i dont know, i think the girl giving the symbol of her virginity a much more powerful thing than whether she can fuck like a pornstar, maybe the attraction of that is due to the fact with most girls losing their virginity at the age of 14 in the UK its completely lost all meaning and the "Virgin" label is something everyone wants to get rid of ASAP... as its not "cool".... its not something ive ever thought about or considered before coming over here and realising how much of a powerful symbol it is, maybe ive got myself to engulfed in the khmer culture

anyway going back to the virgin girls in the bars, i actively seek them out, i regularly go out drinking in hostess bars, but rarely with the intention of taking girls home, as i often bar hop and can visit 5-10 bars a night of regular bars i frequent, i find the original girls far more genuine company, dont hussle you for drinks, are quite happy to sit and chat with you without spilling the tiresome flirty bargirl chat up lines, often speak little english which is good practice for me, and also to have a virgin girl in a seedy atmosphere i find strangely (respectfully) attractive, i think it shows good character

Sex can be glue and of course is an important factor, but not the most important in a marriage.

Surely is great just to chat with a traditional girl, you can learn a lot about Cambodia and his culture. Maybe would be better to chat and meet her outside a girlie bar. LOL

I think that the virginity is a powerful symbol in the khmer culture, but just for the khmer men and families to trap the girls and not really for the girls.

I could not commit me in a blind (with a virgin) marriage, but maybe you could do it. I could not do it for me and for her, knowing the khmer culture. Sometime marriages don’t work out and I would not like to be trapped in a bad marriage.
I think a light grey girl is a better option for a long or short relationship with mutual fun. I got the impression that a barang for grey girls is a better option, even to have a few days of mutual fun.
I would be curious to know more about experiences (long or short) with grey girls.

khmerre wrote:

Jamie_Lambo wrote:

khmerre wrote:I dont have any experience with bar girls, but more with "gray girls" . With them in Cambodia you can have a great time and for "free" or better just with some dinner and.... without any cash transaction involved. Or maybe it is just my experience.

It is wondering for me to hear that Jamie would like to settle down wit a good girl (virgin). I think in a relationship sex plays an important role, maybe not the most, and I would never take a virgin in Cambodia because without a commitmernt (the man is an asshole) and with serious intentions would be to risky to have a partner with whom the sex could be not so great. The attitude towards sex of the cambodian girls is often very different form the western girls and maybe it is better to test it before the marriage. E.g. my 2 cent expreience ist that masturbation is unusual for khmer girls ( I dont know about khmer boys) whereas western girls (wifes) do it and use toys too (forbidden in Cambodia)

You can have a great time with bar girls for free as well if you go about it the right way, the past 4 girls ive been with recently all work in bars here in SHV, no cash transactions involved (or barfines), just mutual fun

i agree with what you say, in previous relationships for me, and i guess its the same with most people, sex is glue, its the physical/emotional bonding etc...
but for me, that can and has kept me in relationships that i shouldnt really be in (bargirls, strippers, lying whores etc etc.),
i do appreciate the point though where the sex might not be so great (to start with?) and with my history a lot of people thought i was taking the piss lol
but if i take away the option of sex i can really focus on the other important things about the girl in question, where as before i might have over looked certain traits due to thinking more with my dick...
i dont know, i think the girl giving the symbol of her virginity a much more powerful thing than whether she can fuck like a pornstar, maybe the attraction of that is due to the fact with most girls losing their virginity at the age of 14 in the UK its completely lost all meaning and the "Virgin" label is something everyone wants to get rid of ASAP... as its not "cool".... its not something ive ever thought about or considered before coming over here and realising how much of a powerful symbol it is, maybe ive got myself to engulfed in the khmer culture

anyway going back to the virgin girls in the bars, i actively seek them out, i regularly go out drinking in hostess bars, but rarely with the intention of taking girls home, as i often bar hop and can visit 5-10 bars a night of regular bars i frequent, i find the original girls far more genuine company, dont hussle you for drinks, are quite happy to sit and chat with you without spilling the tiresome flirty bargirl chat up lines, often speak little english which is good practice for me, and also to have a virgin girl in a seedy atmosphere i find strangely (respectfully) attractive, i think it shows good character

Sex can be glue and of course is an important factor, but not the most important in a marriage.

Surely is great just to chat with a traditional girl, you can learn a lot about Cambodia and his culture. Maybe would be better to chat and meet her outside a girlie bar. LOL

I think that the virginity is a powerful symbol in the khmer culture, but just for the khmer men and families to trap the girls and not really for the girls.

I could not commit me in a blind (with a virgin) marriage, but maybe you could do it. I could not do it for me and for her, knowing the khmer culture. Sometime marriages don’t work out and I would not like to be trapped in a bad marriage.
I think a light grey girl is a better option for a long or short relationship with mutual fun. I got the impression that a barang for grey girls is a better option, even to have a few days of mutual fun.
I would be curious to know more about experiences (long or short) with grey girls.

i did write a lot more in my original post, but decided not dive too deep into it all, as in the end of the day it is a public forum lol

i think i could if i met the right girl, the sex wouldnt be so important to me, and i like to convince myself of that, but how long one can keep himself committed and keep a relationship going and interesting without the inclusion of sex, and that intimacy, is hard to say, i would go deeper into the subject regards to personal previous experiences etc but not here, welcome to PM me though, but ill keep it basic here,

grey girls do have their advantages, easier to communicate with being one, some take a pride in the fact that they dont work in bars and can earn their own money, it makes them more independent etc, you can really pick up a great girl, i know many
grey girls that come from a bargirl background though, or even girls that work in bars that "dont go with customers" but might be willing to meet on the side, are a little more complicated though, usually have high expectations of what they want (from you), more materialistic etc etc i dont need to dive too much into the "you can take the girl out the bar but not the bar out the girl" logic, partygirls dont make good marriage material (not all cases, i know some people happily married with ex bargirls/grey girls) i also know bargirls that are decent girls and would make good girlfriends, but still its fine when youre keeping them happy but most often return when the going gets tough, usually with a "broken heart" and a more cut throat attitude

looks like you really have some deep thoughts on this issue, why not keep it simple like me? wham bam thank you maam, pay money and get the hell out. when you are 60s then look for a 40 something, which by that time nothing doesnt matter anything anymore

bolueeleh wrote:looks like you really have some deep thoughts on this issue, why not keep it simple like me? wham bam thank you maam, pay money and get the hell out. when you are 60s then look for a 40 something, which by that time nothing doesnt matter anything anymore

you suggesting i should wait another 30 years before i find a gf and start a family? i dont plan to live until im 60, my body will pack in before then lol

Jamie_Lambo wrote:

bolueeleh wrote:looks like you really have some deep thoughts on this issue, why not keep it simple like me? wham bam thank you maam, pay money and get the hell out. when you are 60s then look for a 40 something, which by that time nothing doesnt matter anything anymore

you suggesting i should wait another 30 years before i find a gf and start a family? i dont plan to live until im 60, my body will pack in before then lol

yah bang as many as you can now, along the way im sure u can find a good wife but if cant find one then by 60 "settle" for one.