transferring large sums of money
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Re: RE: Re: transferring large sums of money
Great post, thanks for taking the time that is excellent info.walkjivefly wrote: OP has 2 choices:
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Re: RE: Re: transferring large sums of money
yeah when i use RFX,walkjivefly wrote:OP has 2 choices:bolueeleh wrote:most banks hv to go thru some kind of intermediary, unless u r a huge conglomerate like citi with presence in over 100 countriestimmydownawell wrote: Thanks, but when they send the money via SWIFT won't it still go via the intermediary bank who charges 3%?
1. make a payment from home country bank account to destination account in Cambodia. Likely to involve a currency exchange in the origin country and not at a favourable rate. Likely to incur a service charge from the origin bank. Almost certain to go through at least one intermediary bank which will almost certainly charge a handling fee, usually a fixed amount between $25-$50 but it could be a percentage. You'll probably get no choice in which intermediary bank is used. Your origin bank will probably claim not to know which bank it will be nor how much they will charge.
2. Use a currency transfer intermediary. There are lots to choose from. Rational FX have been mentioned already. Make a payment in your home currency from your bank to the FX company. Probably there will be no fee for this payment. They'll do the currency conversion at a better rate than your bank would and then transfer the money, again via an intermediary who will again charge a fee.
In both cases when the money arrives in Cambodia the receiving bank will probably charge a fee based on the amount.
Some random things I've learned transferring money from the UK to Cambodia:
1. (UK banks claim) all US$ transfers must go through a US intermediary bank.
2. ABA and possibly other Cambodian banks (claim they) will accept payments in GB£, and give a better exchange rate than the UK bank, but both UK banks I asked to send GB£ said "cannot". They couldn't explain why.
3. Xendpay (Rational FX) have a "no surprises guarantee" which promises to refund any intermediary (but not destination) bank charges. They don't like to honour it and are slow to do so but they have refunded all the intermediary fees I've incurred in the last 2 years.
4. Peer to peer FX companies like Transferwise and CurrencyFair do not operate in Cambodia and are unlikely to do so any time soon.
5. Many traditional FX companies also don't support transfers to Cambodia.
6. The AML/KYC requirements of some traditional FX companies make then unusable by expats in Cambodia.
i get a better exchange rate than the banks,
i usually transfer £1000 at a time
they charge £4-5 handling fee
ABA charge $10 for the transfer into the bank,
i did notice the last transfer i got them to do came through about $30 shy, but that might be due to the intermediary
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Re: RE: Re: transferring large sums of money
That last part's what I am trying to avoid. I sent US$1500 from Australia and got charged US$16 by my Australian bank, US$36 by the intermediary, and US$10 by ABA - that's $62, more than 4%. It's such a ripoff for an electronic transaction that in reality would have cost them something like 5 cents each. Not to mention the crappy USD conversion rate from my AU bank.Jamie_Lambo wrote: i usually transfer £1000 at a time
they charge £4-5 handling fee
ABA charge $10 for the transfer into the bank,
i did notice the last transfer i got them to do came through about $30 shy, but that might be due to the intermediary
When I get my Citibank card it'll just be $4 or $5 per ATM withdrawal. But when and if I need to transfer a bigger sum that's where the problem lies. Hopefully walkjivefly's info/explanation helps.
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Re: RE: Re: transferring large sums of money
Yep, it's definitely a rip-off. The only way I know to minimise it is to shop around on the FX company and send fewer, larger payments. Transferring only £1000 at a time is not much better than making ATM withdrawals. The origin and intermediary fees are usually fixed, ABA charge a stepped receiving fee. Transfer a large enough amount and the total overhead drops to fractionally more than 0.1%.timmydownawell wrote:That last part's what I am trying to avoid. I sent US$1500 from Australia and got charged US$16 by my Australian bank, US$36 by the intermediary, and US$10 by ABA - that's $62, more than 4%. It's such a ripoff for an electronic transaction that in reality would have cost them something like 5 cents each. Not to mention the crappy USD conversion rate from my AU bank.Jamie_Lambo wrote: i usually transfer £1000 at a time
they charge £4-5 handling fee
ABA charge $10 for the transfer into the bank,
i did notice the last transfer i got them to do came through about $30 shy, but that might be due to the intermediary
When I get my Citibank card it'll just be $4 or $5 per ATM withdrawal. But when and if I need to transfer a bigger sum that's where the problem lies. Hopefully walkjivefly's info/explanation helps.
There's a company advertising on TOF transfers from Australia (and HK) to Cambodia and promising much reduced fees and no receiving bank fees. But I don't know if anyone has been brave enough to try them yet. The name is something like AusSmart or HKSmart.
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Re: transferring large sums of money
^^ They posted here as well.
Transfer Fund from Australia to Cambodia with AUDSmart. No fees, no charges.
MIght be worth looking into. https://cambodiaexpatsonline.com/general ... t8056.html
Transfer Fund from Australia to Cambodia with AUDSmart. No fees, no charges.
MIght be worth looking into. https://cambodiaexpatsonline.com/general ... t8056.html
Re: transferring large sums of money
I usually send just shy of $10k (in $USD) from overseas accounts to my ABA when I need to, get charged a small outward transfer fee from overseas acct, and $10 from ABA, never been charged by an intermediary that I'm aware of.
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Re: transferring large sums of money
there is online money transfer website that do it for a very low low fee, i saw it few years ago, cant rememeber the name now
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Re: transferring large sums of money
£1000,$10000?
pfft, large sums my arse.
pfft, large sums my arse.
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now we know who to look for when we want a free drinkSinnSisamouth wrote:£1000,$10000?
pfft, large sums my arse.
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Re: transferring large sums of money
I get 0% transfer fees from abroad to my PPCB account.
There is a small fee for the intermediary bank but last time was 40$ on 60.000$ so less than than 0.1%
There is a small fee for the intermediary bank but last time was 40$ on 60.000$ so less than than 0.1%
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